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[–] oddjob ago
What taxes went up under Obama besides the no health insurance penalty?
[–] smashbery 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
its my understanding that obama care drove up the tax in many other category's just to off set the cost of mandated health care. unless your big money you can fell the off set just walking out your door... http://www.atr.org/full-list-ACA-tax-hikes-a6996 that was just a quick google search but think of it this way.
no matter how you argue it obama was stearing us down a road of socialism/dictator ship, the consumer has less options and less control of how they spend the money they earn. people become scared to spend money bc they never know how much is going to be taken from them at the end of the year or what new forced tax there will be. bc of obama care alone, look at the damage that has been done, people have gotten either layed off of forced to become part time, tho the price per barrel of oil has been at an all time low the tax has been at an all time high . people slowed down on buying houses so the economy had to balance and drop interest rates, same goes for credit cards or vehicles. along with his planes for TPP and extending free trade to other nations big business started going over seas bc it was cheaper to import. those business that either failed of moved out or had to take a bail out just to stay in business are all problems for the tax payer. its one giant snowball effect, is there is no working middle class there is less taxs comming in. now that more people are out of a job and not paying taxes there collecting unemployment or welfair. see where its starting to compile. there are now less people paying taxes and more people drawing from the system. the simple fact he took from social security but yet gave terrorist 150 billion and more then dublled our national debt should be red flags all up in your think cap.
now will trump cut these taxes .... yes and no , he might lower the working class's taxes but the way the economy will see there will be more jobs (hopefully). more people working so there will be less of a strain to pay the unemployed bc there will be less unemployed.