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[–] Chance 0 points 83 points (+83|-0) ago 

I can relate. Up until late highschool I mostly identified with liberal/left wing ideals, but I take absolutely no preference in parties anymore.

Not to beat a dead horse, but I seriously just think that both parties are fucked and it's pointless to align yourself with either whole-heartedly.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 56 points (+56|-0) ago 

As a lifelong liberal, i see how pretty much all liberal news outlets twist trumps words and call him a nazi. It goes full circle. I don't trust the media at all anymore.

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[–] anddicksays 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

as a lifelong neo-conservative ... i like you.

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[–] cynoclast 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

The choice between Democrat and Republican is not freedom but a box to contain you.

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[–] DoucheBagMcGee 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This. The left-right divide is retarded. I see people discredit good ideas just because it came from the other side, but then they turn around quietly and do the same fucking thing. All these principled hypocrites make going one side or the other a bad choice right now.

Hold the center, cause the flanks are going full retard. I've been pretty left leaning my whole life, but now I find myself headed towards the center or libertarian on a lot of issues.

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[–] serious 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think they might be trying to move what 'middle' means by having more and more extreme bullshit on their side.

"We are being very rational, look how much further some people go, clearly we are the middle"

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[–] FilmMakingShitlord 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

AvP's tagline fits very appropriately with American bipartisan politics. "No matter who wins, we lose."

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[–] Salicaz 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

Amazing! I'm a right leaner whilst a good friend of mine is left. Can debate to the early hours but then get on like bros. This explains us perfectly.

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[–] anddicksays 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

One of the things im thankful for the most is the variety in my friends group.. black/white, college/no college, liberal/conservative, far right/far left, we're all over the place.. but the best part to me is how many looooong and extremely interesting discussions we have on topics. I've been swayed on viewpoints and I've seen my friends change their ideals as well. It also helps that we smoke a shit ton and philosophical conversations are fun.

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[–] Frankensauce 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

If everyone in the world thought exactly the same as I did, it would be a very boring world.

Variety is indeed the spice of life.

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[–] edthomson92 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

for lack of a better phrase, how do you make it work?

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[–] Salicaz 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Mutual respect and we're both fairly educated. We appreciate each others stance on things but challenge each other all the same.

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[–] PrincessVB 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Hardcore liberal here. Marched for abortion rights, all that jazz. Even sat on a feminist council. I didn't leave feminism, feminism fucking left me when they started talking about microaggressions, and when I realized the imbalance in college admissions in men:women. They kept shifting the goalpost and shut down any attempt at discussion. Eventually I was booted from the meetings.

Fuck it.

I have always hated fat people anyways, they're fucking slovenly. Then they got this whole "fat acceptance" bit and became a fucking majority in the USA. It's fucking crazy. Strange bedfellows indeed. I now find myself blacklisted on facebook by most of my liberal friends, and it's stunning, because it's like "but...but I'm a liberal!"

I ride my bicycle to work. I work with children and teach them to respect the environment, I'm pro-420 even if I don't smoke it myself. I'm pro-reforming the prison system instead of "hard sentencing," because it's so expensive and has such a high re-committal rate. I'm anti-privatization of various government agencies, and pro-mass transit (at least, trains and trams. Fuck buses.)

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[–] Novius 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Pretty much the same here, plenty of small businesses rather than a few large businesses is the only thing I would add, other than a "fuck yeah Science" vibe of course. I'm not allowed to be against Hillary because she's a woman who backs Wall Street rather than a man who backs unions, when did the Identity Politics clown car that pushes me out of art (Post-postmodernism), Social science (Science Wars), atheism (Atheism Plus), Science fiction (Sad Puppies), video games (Gamergate) and now the left (Identity Politics) take over so much without a fight?

Its maddening. Individualism, Civil liberties, Freethought, Self-Expression, Public Esteem, Self-ownership and individual autonomy are out and Herd mentality, Indoctrination, Pro-"Mass society", Social engineering, and Western Tyrants are in? fucking crazy.

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[–] PrincessVB 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Its maddening. Individualism, Civil liberties, Freethought, Self-Expression, Public Esteem, Self-ownership and individual autonomy

That's all stuff I thought liberalism stood for. I hated seeing the whole "free speech zones" under Bush. Now nowhere is safe, least of all "safe spaces." I hated the suburbanite mcmansion craze that swept the country during the bush era and preceding, and I wanted to be able to stand out a bit, but this is just.... like...

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[–] PIcasso54 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Sounds about right. I'm a moderate conservative going into Petroleum Engineering and I agree with all of this except the abortion part. It should be mandatory weed is legalized and our prison system needs reformation. Also, I would love to see more passenger trains like in Europe. Hell just to get around on train instead of driving everywhere would be nice-- also would get people walking more and in better shape.

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[–] oedipusaurus_rex 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I still consider myself a second wave feminist. I'm all for equal rights. Third wave and intersectional feminism is bullshit though.

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[–] PrincessVB 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Fair

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[–] Dr_No 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Half the "rightwingers" I see are just people against the second European medieval age. Danish so called right-wing party Danish Peoples Party (DF) is leftist as fuck, just wont finance import of third world problems.

Be for progress!

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[–] Foralltoosee 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

This! This! This! Fuck, I need more meaningless internet point to give you.

'Right winger' doesn't fit me but I agree with most people here on a number of different issues. Nearly all of those topics have to do with what's going on in Europe and the situation we face in the US as well.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Im fairly liberal, but the left does not give two shits about the border and the disaster known as multiculturualisn. Trump and le penn are the peoples frustration.

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[–] cynoclast 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Because politics isn't two dimensions. And I wouldn't say majority of racist acts and ethnic cleansing were done by the left wings, some, sure. But what does accurately cover them all is authoritarians. Left and right. And that's only adding one dimension to politics. It's almost as though it can't be simplified down to a false dichotomy...

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[–] Boltbeam 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

B-But this stock image of a redneck has a racist caption on it, and people don't like Obama? How do you explain THAT!!!?!?!? /s

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[–] novictim 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Yep. The reality of Islam being the enemy of liberalism and Western secular society pulls us all together.

Is that a silver lining?

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[–] 3sp00ky5us 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

This fucking made my day. Great to see rational left wingers and rational right wingers seeing eye to eye.

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[–] NamelessCrewmember 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Because this is VOAT, not Reddit.

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[–] cynoclast 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

It's the easiest way to divide the poor so they fight amongst themselves instead of the plutocrat class that rules them all.

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