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This was the post, and it was spot on if you ask me:
All the mantras that these people keep repeating to themselves, the platitudes, the slogans...
"We're all immigrants."
"Race is a social construct."
"Diversity is our strength."
"They enrich our culture."
"Islam is a religion of peace."
"No borders, no nations, no more deportations."
All of these things, as time goes on, are going to become less and less satisfying. Less satisfactory. Less comforting.
Leftists (especially Europeans and their descendants) have such a belief in Whig history that they think they can do anything to their society and it'll always turn out fine. They look back into the past and think, "Okay, so our ancestors were committing genocide, then slavery, then segregation, then racism... and now we're here! Now our generation is here, and we're not like those terrible people in the past. We're the good people. We can get along with any group of people. We can fuck around with gender roles and parenting as much as we want to. We can do anything." They think people are always becoming more civilized, more equal, more tolerant, more civil, more free, because that's how it's been for their group. They don't understand that this isn't how everyone else is. It's not even how they themselves are. Things DON'T always get better. People DON'T always become more civilized. You're not different from your ancestors or better than them, and you don't need to be. We're all still the same people.
"Oh, these people are telling us that they'll kill our children if they don't convert to Islam, but... that's the kind of shit WE used to do, and now we don't. So they'll get over it. They'll become more like us. Because we're all just people. We must be, since our society has told us that racism is wrong."
What if they don't? And they certainly won't if you don't do anything. If you make absolutely no attempt to impose your values on them or even enforce your laws on them.
Whoever you are, even if you agree with a lot of what leftists say, even if you're a member of one of the groups they say they care about, remember this: All they actually care about is being morally superior to everyone else. They don't actually care about the results of the things they advocate, as we can see. They have to support all possible immigration, because they have to show that they're morally superior to the terrible bigots, the xenophobic and racist people, who could only be opposed to immigration because they have an irrational hatred and fear of others.
But then, once the immigrants are in the country, the leftists have to prove that they're morally superior to the IMMIGRANTS. And apparently the way they do this is by letting them do whatever the fuck they want. Letting them break whatever laws and violate whatever social norms. Then they brush it away as "cultural differences." They say, "oh, they didn't know any better." Even when they're doing things like raping Swedish toddlers to death and immolating gay men.
The leftists don't try to do anything about it because if they do, and they're successful, then they're no longer morally superior to them. These leftists have been imbued with such a desire to be "one of the good ones" that they love it when other people do immoral things. They need it. Otherwise their identity as "one of the good ones" is shattered.
It's the same reason why feminists hate male feminists. Their whole thing is that they want to prove to themselves that men are bad people. So when these dudes listen to them, they don't know what the fuck to do.
It's the same reason why you see people online inventing increasingly esoteric forms of oppression and bigotry aimed at made-up genders and sexualities. They want to be the only ones who are on the "right side of history." They hate it when their shit gets accepted by the mainstream. They promote objectionable shit on purpose. They're aware that the vast majority of people are going to be repulsed by the idea of transgender people. They want us to reject it so they can feel like they're better than us.
It's all they have left. To try to be morally superior. But to get there, at this point they're having to twist their morality into pretzels. Look at Paris. What they were concerned about in the immediate aftermath was the "alarming number of anti-Muslim tweets." What they were concerned about was protecting the Muslims. Not themselves. They don't care about that. Because they like it when other people kill. Because they're leftists.
"Look at how civilized we are! You can murder 140 of us, and not only will we not retaliate, we'll be more concerned about these other people than we are about ourselves! That's how beyond tribalism we are. That's how beyond violence we are. That's how beyond nationalism we are. You can do this shit, and we'll invite thousands more of you into France! Because we're better than you! Look at how big our hearts are. We're good people. What, you care about controlling your own land? Keeping hostile groups of people out? That's because you're savages. We're the civilized people."
It's all they have left.
Meanwhile in Saudi Arabia they'll kill you for building a church, while they fund thousands of mosques in Europe. The Kuwaitis said of the Syrian refugees that "it would be wrong for us to accept people who are different from us." Who's winning? Who's right? It depends on what your goal is. If you want to maintain the stability of your society, then obviously the leftists are losing. The only thing they're winning is the Battle for the Moral High Ground, a game that no one else is playing.
All the left has is "should." People shouldn't hate each other. We should all be able to get along. We shouldn't need borders. People shouldn't be racist. Men shouldn't rape. You shouldn't have to impose gender roles on your children. Obviously, no one disagrees with these things. This ideology has no basis in reality. As we can see, it is destructive. There are so many problems that the Western world has now, that would've been avoided if we'd just listened to the people we collectively dismissed as "bigots."
Multiculturalism is an experiment. Feminism is an experiment. These are social experiments; deviations from what people naturally experience. I remember reading once about an experiment where they drew two lines on a board, one line longer than the other. They brought 10 people into the room, and the first 9 people were in on the experiment. They asked each person which of the lines was longer, and, as instructed, the first 9 said that the shorter line was longer than the longer line. Then it got to the 10th person, and something like a half, or a third, some surprisingly significant amount of the time, the 10th person agreed with the first 9 that the shorter line was longer.
What conclusion are we to draw from this experiment? That those individual people who agreed that the shorter line was longer are stupid? That they said something dumb? That may be true, and it's obviously true. The more pertinent information that we can glean from this experiment is not that those specific people are dumb but that people are dumb. That people are flawed. That these flaws can become revealed when we're put in situations that are unnatural, or jarring, or stressful, or dangerous, or nonsensical.
We can sit here and say that racism is wrong, xenophobia is wrong, "transphobia" is wrong, whatever is wrong, ethnic nationalism is wrong, it's "wrong" to want to keep the "other" away from you. And it is wrong. All these things are wrong, and it's wrong to say that the shorter line is longer. Those people should not have said it, when they could clearly see the truth in front of their faces. They still did. We still do. We still do what we do and feel what we feel and want what we want. PEOPLE ARE WRONG. Everything the far left advocates is predicated upon the belief that we can escape or will escape our flaws. Our nature. We won't. The more we try, the more we pretend that we're okay, the further into madness we'll descend.
Most people, over time, are going to realize that the leftist utopia is a pipe dream. Whatever they're envisioning, or wanting to trick others into envisioning, it will become less and less realistic and less feasible. You can say you don't believe in us vs. them, but "them" does. They're going to stop putting stock into these universalist ideals, and start putting themselves first. The pursuit of these ideals has only made things worse for Europeans. They will tire of being dispossessed by people who hate them and governed by people who don't care about them. They will betray all the values they're "supposed" to have right now, and show that they can be as immoral as anyone, because their concerns for "the world" will fall away and the only concern that will remain will be their own survival. The only question now is how quickly this is going to happen.