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[–] 16688578? 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I remember the process of being enlightened and it was painful. Despite his flaws, I generally liked Reagan and this made me give Bush 41 and 43 a pass. About 2 years into the Obama regime, I recognized that Bush 41=Clinton=Bush43=Obama and half of establishment Washington and the free world. During the Powell email leaks, we learned that the build-up to the Iraq war was indeed staged. I never, EVER would have suspected a US president, especially one who seemed to be honorable, to unleash events that would lead to the killing and/or maiming of millions of people without the absolute most dire necessity. Of course, after hearing Democrats screech "Bush lied, people died!" for eight years (and thinking at the time they were wrong), they elected Obama, who with the help of SOS Clinton, helped destabilize the middle east, get into even more wars and helped overthrow the democratically-elected president of Ukraine.

It was tough to learn that those whom I'd trusted- The Bushes, John McCain, the upper echelons of FBI and CIA, were actually trying to harm me. September 11, 2001 was an awful day for many, and the days that have followed have been bad for the rest of us because September 11, 2001, ushered in a new era of losses of freedom and liberty.

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[–] 16694535? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

The Bush Cartel clearly partnered with the Clintons. The Bush/Clinton regime adopted Obama. It truly has been 28 years of sabotage and probably more. It may have been that the Bushs killed our last real president. Think about that for a moment.

There is a reason real libertarians aren't part of the discussion. Its because they offer real alternatives and real solutions. The libertarians have been correct about all their warnings regardless of which brand the regime has pretended to be.

If you want to see the truth of some issue consider the opposite of what they're telling you. Don't fall for what they tell you the opposite is, but really find the true opposite for yourself. Democrat statists who want to grow government are not the opposite of republican statists who want to grow government. In fact there's been very little real difference until Trump/military taking of GOP, and almost no significant difference. If it could lead to freedom or prosperity, it won't be part of the discussion. It'll be left out entirely. They will laugh at it, and anyone who mentions the potential of it, as ridiculous.

Everything Ron Paul warned us about was accurate. Technorati and Google both said that he was going to win in a landslide, and that it wasn't even close, back before they closed they largely closed the window of opportunity that came with free communication. They were wrong in every way, they laughed at him and called him a joke (but still rigged the GOP primaries against the "joke") and now in hindsight we can see that he was right, and they were wrong, and they'll still laugh at anyone who suggests that liberty is the way.