Helicopter Anon here with some thoughts.

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NSFW Anon Helicopter Anon here with some thoughts. (QRV)

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So in the late 90s and early 0's I was actively involved with military helicopters in quite a few ways. Yes, my info is dated and things may have changed but I doubt it. I watched the LA videos and many many things were strange. When I was actively involved with Helo ops nothing like this would have EVER EVER EVER been done for training. ZERO chance and the following is why I feel this so strongly.

First, the helos in this video. The vid mentions ARMY helos. This is important. Different services use different configurations of the H-60 helo. Now, a standard army troop transport bird will be a pretty basic machine. It will not have ESSS, it will not have FLIR, it will not have a REFUEL PROBE and the accompanying internal fuel tanks. These machines in their basic config are kinda like a flying heavy-duty pickup truck with a stake bed. Relatively light weight with a big cargo capacity and a moderate range with the given fuel load. The more advanced versions, like were seen in this vid are NOT the normal H-60 army version. Instead they appear to be an HH60-G configuration (i could be wrong on that but it is close). This beast will have the following additional stuff. Refuel probe and extra internal fuel tanks. FLIR (the little bump thing about the size of a basket ball sticking out below the cockpit) etc. They may have one of those rescue winch thingys that they can lift and lower people on as well.

You can see this in the video. This is important because it means a few things. First this is NOT normal army. This equipment is almost certainly the purview of Army special forces. It COULD be Air Force CSAR as well but this is unlikely as that is a pretty small group of people and there are only maybe 50 AF CSAR blackhawks ever. Today I think they are mostly replaced with that V22 thing that killed all those pilots in the 80s and 90s. 90% sure this is ARMY SPECIAL FORCES.

I never ever saw that description anywhere at all. It is important. It means there was a lot more going on here than meets the eye. Also I think the little guys were OH58s (?not sure) Those are called Killer Eggs. For those to be flown between buildings is kinda not a big deal. They are highly maneuverable and have many small rotors giving them a small profile. That blackhawk pilot though probably was making diamonds with his butthole going into a LZ that small tbh. Hell, there are standing bans for ALL flight ops "between shit" For instance, if there is a canyon... like, for instance, THE GRAND CANYON... there are standing orders that pilots may never ever fly below the top of the canyon. They can fly OVER it but can never descend into the canyon below the rim of it unless it is mission essential (like in a CSAR LIVE MISSION). Same with stuff like mountain canyons. This is for many reasons but wind and debris, birds, and simple human error is much of the reason. So think about the SIZE of the grand canyon and think about the size of the gap between these buildings. See what I mean?

Next, on the actual location of the operation. NEVER EVER EVER would this happen for training. never. never ever... get the picture. You want to know a 1 star general's greatest nightmare? It would be a stupid training OP happening where one if his aircraft killed a whole lot of civilians FOR NO REASON. Let that sink in... There was no reason to do a complex and dangerous live training op in the middle of a major city with civilians living and working in the area. Hell some drunk nigger on a balcony tossing an empty bottle over a railing into those rotor blades could cause a disastrous crash and dozens of deaths and bad press for a DECADE.

How likely do you think the Generals would be to take such personal risk and career risk when they could simply say "I command you to do this training op at a proper remote facility with building mock-ups out on a training range somewhere..." and have ZERO risk. I guarantee you 101% that this was LIVE MILITARY OPS and not training. There is zero chance this was training. This was live ops.

EDIT THE KILLER EGGS ARE AN OH6 NOT AN OH58. THANKS TO ANON BELOW FOR CORRECTING ME!

So in the late 90s and early 0's I was actively involved with military helicopters in quite a few ways.  Yes, my info is dated and things may have changed but I doubt it.  I watched the LA videos and many many things were strange.  When I was actively involved with Helo ops nothing like this would have EVER EVER EVER been done for training. ZERO chance and the following is why I feel this so strongly.  

First, the helos in this video.  The vid mentions ARMY helos.  This is important.  Different services use different configurations of the H-60 helo.  Now, a standard army troop transport bird will be a pretty basic machine. It will not have ESSS, it will not have FLIR, it will not have a REFUEL PROBE and the accompanying internal fuel tanks.  These machines in their basic config are kinda like a flying heavy-duty pickup truck with a stake bed.  Relatively light weight with a big cargo capacity and a moderate range with the given fuel load. The more advanced versions, like were seen in this vid are NOT the normal H-60 army version. Instead they appear to be an HH60-G configuration (i could be wrong on that but it is close).  This beast will have the following additional stuff.  Refuel probe and extra internal fuel tanks. FLIR (the little bump thing about the size of a basket ball sticking out below the cockpit) etc.  They may have one of those rescue winch thingys that they can lift and lower people on as well.   

You can see this in the video.  This is important because it means a few things.  First this is NOT normal army.  This equipment is almost certainly the purview of Army special forces.  It COULD be Air Force CSAR as well but this is unlikely as that is a pretty small group of people and there are only maybe 50 AF CSAR blackhawks ever.  Today I think they are mostly replaced with that V22 thing that killed all those pilots in the 80s and 90s.  90% sure this is ARMY SPECIAL FORCES.  

I never ever saw that description anywhere at all.  It is important.  It means there was a lot more going on here than meets the eye.   Also I think the little guys were OH58s (?not sure) Those are called Killer Eggs.  For those to be flown between buildings is kinda not a big deal.  They are highly maneuverable and have many small rotors giving them a small profile. That blackhawk pilot though probably was making diamonds with his butthole going into a LZ that small tbh.  Hell, there are standing bans for ALL flight ops "between shit"  For instance, if there is a canyon... like, for instance, THE GRAND CANYON... there are standing orders that pilots may never ever fly below the top of the canyon.  They can fly OVER it but can never descend into the canyon below the rim of it unless it is mission essential (like in a CSAR LIVE MISSION).  Same with stuff like mountain canyons.  This is for many reasons but wind and debris, birds, and simple human error is much of the reason.  So think about the SIZE of the grand canyon and think about the size of the gap between these buildings.  See what I mean?

Next, on the actual location of the operation.  NEVER EVER EVER would this happen for training.  never.  never ever... get the picture.  You want to know a 1 star general's greatest nightmare?  It would be a stupid training OP happening where one if his aircraft killed a whole lot of civilians FOR NO REASON.  Let that sink in...   There was no reason to do a complex and dangerous live training op in the middle of a major city with civilians living and working in the area.  Hell some drunk nigger on a balcony tossing an empty bottle over a railing into those rotor blades could cause a disastrous crash and dozens of deaths and bad press for a DECADE.  

How likely do you think the Generals would be to take such personal risk and career risk when they could simply say "I command you to do this training op at a proper remote facility with building mock-ups out on a training range somewhere..."  and have ZERO risk.  I guarantee you 101% that this was LIVE MILITARY OPS and not training.  There is zero chance this was training.  This was live ops.

EDIT THE KILLER EGGS ARE AN OH6 NOT AN OH58.  THANKS TO ANON BELOW FOR CORRECTING ME!

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[–] 16640333? 1 points 100 points 101 points (+101|-1) 11 days ago

Commenting to confirm OPs statements. Just sent the video to a reliable source and received the following...

The Black Hawks had air-to-air refueling probes on them; which means they are aircraft and aircrew from the 160th SOAR. I'm not saying these guys flew the Bin Laden raid, but if you wanted to fly undetected through Pakistani airspace to assault a possibly heavily fortified and defended compound to get Bin Laden, well, these are the guys you'd call. They are the only guys that have air-to-air refueling capability on Black Hawks.
In my 30-years experience in Army Aviation, I've only ever heard of an "exercise" in a metropolitan area...once. The 1st Special Forces group flew a training mission near the outskirts of Seattle in the 1998 timeframe. It was not well coordinated with the civilian population and local law enforcement. Let's just say the poop kinda hit the fan. It was virtually a career ender for those responsible..... and it was nowhere near the downtown metropolitan area.
Guys that do this stuff for a living have suitable training sites away from the civilian populace. There is limited value added, and a huge risk incurred, to conduct such training in a heavily populated area for "realism." The cost-benefit calculus doesn't work out. It's just not worth it. Training for urban operations is conducted at training sites. Sometimes aggressive exercises are conducted in more populated areas overseas, not in the U.S. though.

Commenting to confirm OPs statements. Just sent the video to a reliable source and received the following...


1. The Black Hawks had air-to-air refueling probes on them; which means they are aircraft and aircrew from the 160th SOAR. I'm not saying these guys flew the Bin Laden raid, but if you wanted to fly undetected through Pakistani airspace to assault a possibly heavily fortified and defended compound to get Bin Laden, well, these are the guys you'd call. They are the only guys that have air-to-air refueling capability on Black Hawks.

2. In my 30-years experience in Army Aviation, I've only ever heard of an "exercise" in a metropolitan area...once. The 1st Special Forces group flew a training mission near the outskirts of Seattle in the 1998 timeframe. It was not well coordinated with the civilian population and local law enforcement. Let's just say the poop kinda hit the fan. It was virtually a career ender for those responsible..... and it was nowhere near the downtown metropolitan area.

3. Guys that do this stuff for a living have suitable training sites away from the civilian populace. There is limited value added, and a huge risk incurred, to conduct such training in a heavily populated area for "realism." The cost-benefit calculus doesn't work out. It's just not worth it. Training for urban operations is conducted at training sites. Sometimes aggressive exercises are conducted in more populated areas overseas, not in the U.S. though.

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[–] 16641523? 0 points 62 points 62 points (+62|-0) 11 days ago

These posts are getting serious pushback now with people saying this happens all the time, it is no big deal etc, but never with any links or evidence.

I think this is evidence of habbenings, which is why they are trying to cast doubt.

These posts are getting serious pushback now with people saying this happens all the time, it is no big deal etc, but never with any links or evidence.

I think this is evidence of habbenings, which is why they are trying to cast doubt.

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[–] 16646502? 0 points 14 points 14 points (+14|-0) 11 days ago

Why are most of us here lurking for answers because this happens all the time? Not normal! We, with military experience KNOW, something was up. We, just don't know what. Henceforth why we are waiting for a Veteran or current to give us a logical explanation. So thank you.

Why are most of us here lurking for answers because this happens all the time? Not normal!
We, with military experience KNOW, something was up. We, just don't know what. Henceforth why we are waiting for a Veteran or current to give us a logical explanation. So thank you.

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[–] 16647624? 0 points 10 points 10 points (+10|-0) 11 days ago

ARRESTS OR GTFO!

*Clear fucking black ops start going down

Ugn! This happens all the time! Trust me I was a veteran heli pilot from the Vietnam times! In boot camp we landed Hueys in time square weekly! Proof? Here's a video of Marines practicing riot control in a fake neighborhood. See? Happens all the time.

>ARRESTS OR GTFO!

*Clear fucking black ops start going down

>Ugn! This happens all the time! Trust me I was a veteran heli pilot from the Vietnam times! In boot camp we landed Hueys in time square weekly! Proof? Here's a video of Marines practicing riot control in a fake neighborhood. See? Happens all the time.

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[–] 16645388? 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) 11 days ago (edited 11 days ago)

Pushback from whom? Morons and other loser trolls who say that are too stupid to listen to, and have no real experience to be worthy of listening to, not even believing their own "lying eyes..."...

Pushback from whom?  Morons and other loser trolls who say that are too stupid to listen to, and have no real experience to be worthy of listening to, not even believing their own "lying eyes..."...

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[–] 16667612? 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) 10 days ago

The OP makes sooooooo much sense, that no one with an IQ above freezing will buy the push back (which means, of course the SJWeenies will). Lord, I'm so tired of being subjected to Leftist idiocy.

The OP makes sooooooo much sense, that no one with an IQ above freezing will buy the push back (which means, of course the SJWeenies will). Lord, I'm so tired of being subjected to Leftist idiocy.

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[–] 16641009? 0 points 25 points 25 points (+25|-0) 11 days ago (edited 11 days ago)

Greetings fren. Just riffing on your thoughts with my own: 1. Those were two MH-6's preceding an MH-60L. Confirming that those are 160th SOAR (A) birds. 2. MOUT/Urban warfare training involving SOF rotary wing assets is/was not "totally uncommon", usually it was done in smaller cities and towns located in the general regions of Fayetteville (Fort Bragg) and Clarksville (Fort Campbell). I can tell you that those operations did not involve flying between tall building, and LZ's/extract sites were in fields and other open areas near target buildings... not on streets. When I was in, would have been unthinkable to do such operations in a heavily populated urban area. The name of the game was realism while staying out of the larger public eye. The game has obviously changed. 3. Adequate urban mock-ups exist on military reservations (Range 68 at Fort Bragg comes to mind) to make this sort of thing unnecessary without good reasons.

Greetings fren. Just riffing on your thoughts with my own:
1. Those were two MH-6's preceding an MH-60L. Confirming that those are 160th SOAR (A) birds.
2. MOUT/Urban warfare training involving SOF rotary wing assets is/was not "totally uncommon", usually it was done in smaller cities and towns located in the general regions of Fayetteville (Fort Bragg) and Clarksville (Fort Campbell). I can tell you that those operations did not involve flying between tall building, and LZ's/extract sites were in fields and other open areas near target buildings... not on streets. When I was in, would have been unthinkable to do such operations in a heavily populated urban area. The name of the game was realism while staying out of the larger public eye. The game has obviously changed.
3. Adequate urban mock-ups exist on military reservations (Range 68 at Fort Bragg comes to mind) to make this sort of thing unnecessary without good reasons.

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[–] 16642213? 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) 11 days ago (edited 11 days ago)

Not sure if this vid from LA 2012 shows any flying between buildings, but they definition fly at root\f level and near buildings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1cFY7O3l6Y

Not sure if this vid from LA 2012 shows any flying between buildings, but they definition fly at root\f level and near buildings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1cFY7O3l6Y

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[–] 16649847? 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 11 days ago

It hasn’t been called MOUT for over 10 years

It hasn’t been called MOUT for over 10 years

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[–] 16647359? 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 11 days ago

There is also a joint forces base designed for urban warfare training in Los Alamitos a couple miles east of Long Beach.

There is also a joint forces base designed for urban warfare training in Los Alamitos a couple miles east of Long Beach.

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[–] 16641562? 0 points 10 points 10 points (+10|-0) 11 days ago (edited 11 days ago)

I was AFSOC... Air Force. We had those type on our base.

Example:

https://www.dvidshub.net/image/4427037/17th-sos-conducts-haar-balikatan-2018

I worked on the C-130J. I've not seen them in urban areas either.

I was AFSOC... Air Force. We had those type on our base.

Example:

https://www.dvidshub.net/image/4427037/17th-sos-conducts-haar-balikatan-2018

I worked on the C-130J. I've not seen them in urban areas either.

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[–] 16647264? 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) 11 days ago

I was AFSOC... Air Force. We had those type on our base.

Welcome, brother. I was PACAF (pre-AFSOC).

>I was AFSOC... Air Force. We had those type on our base.

Welcome, brother.  I was PACAF (pre-AFSOC).

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[–] 16651329? 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) 11 days ago

The MH-60G stopped doing this kind of work when they were redesignated HH-60G and sent to Rescue.

t. Old AFSOC helo fag

The MH-60G stopped doing this kind of work when they were redesignated HH-60G and sent to Rescue.

t. Old AFSOC helo fag

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[–] 16641749? 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) 11 days ago

In my 30-years experience in Army Aviation, I've only ever heard of an "exercise" in a metropolitan area...once. The 1st Special Forces group flew a training mission near the outskirts of Seattle in the 1998 timeframe

What about LA in 2012?

>In my 30-years experience in Army Aviation, I've only ever heard of an "exercise" in a metropolitan area...once. The 1st Special Forces group flew a training mission near the outskirts of Seattle in the 1998 timeframe

What about LA in 2012?

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[–] 16645500? 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) 11 days ago

They are clearing flying above the buildings and not landing in the street.

They are clearing flying above the buildings and not landing in the street.

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[–] 16640174? 9 points 20 points 29 points (+29|-9) 11 days ago

Bullshit, everyone knows helicopters aren't real. Only an idiot would believe that something like that could really fly.

Bullshit, everyone knows helicopters aren't real. Only an idiot would believe that something like that could really fly.

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[–] 16640232? [S] 0 points 44 points 44 points (+44|-0) 11 days ago

All the blades and engines and stuff are just there for show. There is a device on the H60 called the "mixing unit" It looks like a bunch of levers and rods but it is an anti-gravity device that actually makes the thing fly. They need cover for that thing so they just "make a helicopter" when in reality it is all about the mixing unit... totallyfuckingkiddingKeK

All the blades and engines and stuff are just there for show.  There is a device on the H60 called the "mixing unit"  It looks like a bunch of levers and rods but it is an anti-gravity device that actually makes the thing fly.  They need cover for that thing so they just "make a helicopter" when in reality it is all about the mixing unit...   totallyfuckingkiddingKeK

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[–] 16641456? 0 points 8 points 8 points (+8|-0) 11 days ago

This is the greatest comment on the internet right now. Appreciated OP as well.

This is the greatest comment on the internet right now.  Appreciated OP as well.

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[–] 16649020? 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) 11 days ago (edited 11 days ago)

Actually, I lived with a guy that worked at Area 51. Used to drop him off on the street, on the north side of McCarren near the “Executive Airport” security booth before the gate where the Janet planes leave from. I could not pull in and turn around. He told me they do not build “helicopters with blades” anymore, there was another method of flight. He worked with magnets. Don’t think small little things, he told me these magnets were the size of refrigerators and larger. When you entered the room, you could not have anything metal on you. If you forgot to take off your watch you would fly across the room and be stuck to the beast. He would only tell me things that had been leaked—whether or not I had heard or seen the info. The helicopter info was leaked, once, and the show it was leaked on was immediately cancelled. So, I believed you until you said “totallyfuckingkiddingKeK” -

I’m NOT kidding. The guy told me some very interesting stuff.

Actually, I lived with a guy that worked at Area 51. Used to drop him **off on the street**, on the north side of McCarren near the “Executive Airport” security booth before the gate where the Janet planes leave from. I could not pull in and turn around. He told me they do not build “helicopters with blades” anymore, there was another method of flight.  He worked with magnets. Don’t think small little things, he told me these magnets were the size of refrigerators and larger. When you entered the room, you could not have anything metal on you. If you forgot to take off your watch you would fly across the room and be stuck to the beast. He would only tell me things that had been leaked—whether or not I had heard or seen the info.  The helicopter info was leaked, once, and the show it was leaked on was immediately cancelled. So, I believed you until you said “totallyfuckingkiddingKeK” - 

I’m NOT kidding. The guy told me some very interesting stuff.

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[–] 16648611? 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) 11 days ago

And I thought it was called a "flux capacitor"....

And I thought it was called a "flux capacitor"....

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[–] 16735110? 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 6 days ago

Oh you guys have a great sense of humor.

Serious question though....... What is the confidence level that this was the good guys doing this raid?

Oh you guys have a great sense of humor.  

Serious question though....... What is the confidence level that this was the good guys doing this raid?

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[–] 16640342? 1 points 27 points 28 points (+28|-1) 11 days ago

They don't fly, they beat the air into submission.

They don't fly, they beat the air into submission.

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[–] 16640524? 0 points 13 points 13 points (+13|-0) 11 days ago

“If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, you are in a helicopter, and therefore unsafe”

“If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, you are in a helicopter, and therefore unsafe”

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[–] 16655463? 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 10 days ago

I always feel unsafe in fixed-wing. At least if the rotorhead is moving you got options, even if they be short. (H53 knuckledragger). Fuel probes are for sustained flight, but I only saw a H60 when they were first deployed, not much internal room. Much easier to work around them with no probe, especially that low on the 60.

I always feel unsafe in fixed-wing. At least if the rotorhead is moving you got options, even if they be short. (H53 knuckledragger). Fuel probes are for sustained flight, but I only saw a H60 when they were first deployed, not much internal room. Much easier to work around them with no probe, especially that low on the 60.

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[–] 16647272? 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) 11 days ago

I needed this comment ;)

I needed this comment ;)

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[–] 16643224? 0 points 18 points 18 points (+18|-0) 11 days ago

Ex milfag pilotnigger here, that was not an exercise.

Ex milfag pilotnigger here, that was not an exercise.

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[–] 16646283? [S] 1 points 1 points 2 points (+2|-1) 11 days ago

Ya right? I held a wrench and I know that was a massive steaming pile of bovine defecation.

Ya right?   I held a wrench and I know that was a massive steaming pile of bovine defecation.

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[–] 16653739? 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 11 days ago

100% agree.. this was a mercenary op made to look like a training exercise.

100% agree.. this was a mercenary op made to look like a training exercise.

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[–] 16645208? 0 points 17 points 17 points (+17|-0) 11 days ago

You are almost correct about the "ops" themselves, but as a SOFFAG guy with more that 11 years, and still Involved, we've been doing urban warfare for decades. This is totally cover, ("trng op") beautifully done, REAL ops. The question isn't the reality of those ops, but why? Note the multiple vids and what they really show. [GOOG] the area. Map the area. Think logically, and watch what is coming....its on.

And pay no attention to the Trolls and other associated useful idiot Fags here....they too know, or they're just pathetic useful idiot fags. Think about it. Why would they even be here?

You are almost correct about the "ops" themselves, but as a SOFFAG guy with more that 11 years, and still Involved, we've been doing urban warfare for decades.  This is totally cover, ("trng op") beautifully done, REAL ops.  The question isn't the reality of those ops, but why?  Note the multiple vids and what they really show. [GOOG] the area.  Map the area.  Think logically, and watch what is coming....its on.

And pay no attention to the Trolls and other associated useful idiot Fags here....they too know, or they're just pathetic useful idiot fags.  Think about it.  Why would they even be here?

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[–] 16645501? [S] 0 points 11 points 11 points (+11|-0) 11 days ago

Cool! Yeah I moved some fucking cobwebs to make that post and am kinda surprised it was so popular. Yeah, I had never even HEARD of anything like this back in the day. I am an Oldfag though As my post shows so my info is dated as fuck. Yeah I did some of that. I saw the Standard Hotel (obvious) and some Guatemalan thing (which is where the invader caravan is coming from) and the Wells Fraud-o bank that is having major problems today with their accounts... That is what I have put together. I have been on Voat and the chans for a long time... Longer than this name would make you think. I have good instincts and thick skin. WWG1WGA

Cool!  Yeah I moved some fucking cobwebs to make that post and am kinda surprised it was so popular. Yeah, I had never even HEARD of anything like this back in the day. I am an Oldfag though As my post shows so my info is dated as fuck. Yeah I did some of that.  I saw the Standard Hotel (obvious) and some Guatemalan thing (which is where the invader caravan is coming from) and the Wells Fraud-o bank that is having major problems today with their accounts...  That is what I have put together.  I  have been on Voat and the chans for a long time... Longer than this name would make you think.  I have good instincts and thick skin.  WWG1WGA

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[–] 16671092? 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) 10 days ago

Different veteran fag here. I was taking a much needed disconnect break from all this shit. Which I recommend all anons do from time to time. Lol I was 5 days into my distraction/break when I noticed my paycheck didn’t direct deposit. Looked into wellsfargo and somehow stumbled into this. My service was in a combat aviation brigade, even when we were doing training in rural ass areas on the Mexican border we had to be super careful not to cross certain lines that were still extremely far away from little tiny home stead’s. This was most certainly a real OP, a million and one variables could go wrong for no reason other than muh “training”. Lol for fuck sakes before every mission you do a risk assessment, the crew Chief would’ve been looking at his superior as if they had a (career)deathwish. On a completely different note do you know how high up the approval would be for this nonsensical “training exercise”.

Different veteran fag here. I was taking a much needed disconnect break from all this shit. Which I recommend all anons do from time to time. Lol I was 5 days into my distraction/break when I noticed my paycheck didn’t direct deposit. Looked into wellsfargo and somehow stumbled into this. My service was in a combat aviation brigade, even when we were doing training in rural ass areas on the Mexican border we had to be super careful not to cross certain lines that were still extremely far away from little tiny home stead’s. This was most certainly a real OP, a million and one variables could go wrong for no reason other than muh “training”. Lol for fuck sakes before every mission you do a risk assessment, the crew Chief would’ve been looking at his superior as if they had a (career)deathwish. On a completely different note do you know how high up the approval would be for this nonsensical “training exercise”.

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[–] 16652037? 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 11 days ago

Fuck yeah. It looks like it's on. Who are all those people dressed the same in the street?

Fuck yeah. It looks like it's on. Who are all those people dressed the same in the street?

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[–] 16651993? 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 11 days ago

Why would they even be here?

Are you aware that this appears on the front page? Earlier this evening I "comment trolled" on a recommended video by a Targeted Individual (TI) who claimed, essentially, hundreds of government employees are intentionally messing with his life in the most random ways. They're blocking his craigslist posts, rearranging the files on his computer, changing the content of his emails, and much more. Depending on his attitude, why not tell him about his insanity, or mock him for the same?

>Why would they even be here?

Are you aware that this appears on the front page? Earlier this evening I "comment trolled" on a recommended video by a Targeted Individual (TI) who claimed, essentially, hundreds of government employees are intentionally messing with his life in the most random ways. They're blocking his craigslist posts, rearranging the files on his computer, changing the content of his emails, and much more.  Depending on his attitude, why not tell him about his insanity, or mock him for the same?

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[–] 16641253? 0 points 13 points 13 points (+13|-0) 11 days ago

High IQ thread

High IQ thread

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[–] 16641495? 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) 11 days ago

A cyclic collective.

A cyclic collective.

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[–] 16641778? 0 points 11 points 11 points (+11|-0) 11 days ago

FYI OP. This is VOAT, learn our comms.

So in the late 90s and early 0's I was actively involved with military helicopters ...

This does not make you a "helicopter anon" on this forum. It makes you a "chopper-fag."

Otherwise, thanks for the good post chopper-fag.

FYI OP. This is VOAT, learn our comms.                                            
>So in the late 90s and early 0's I was actively involved with military helicopters ...

This does not make you a "helicopter anon" on this forum.  It makes you a "chopper-fag."                                                                

Otherwise, thanks for the good post chopper-fag.

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[–] 16642222? 0 points 14 points 14 points (+14|-0) 11 days ago

thanks correction-fag

thanks correction-fag

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[–] 16642440? [S] 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) 11 days ago

Ha ha yeah you are right actually. I spend too much time on the chan now.

Ha ha   yeah you are right actually.  I spend too much time on the chan now.

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[–] 16644677? 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) 11 days ago

I still remember the laugh I had when Q called something fake, and one of the anons corrected Q and said , "Fake and Gay, learn our coms "

I still remember the laugh I had when Q called something fake, and one of the anons corrected Q and said , "Fake and Gay, learn our coms "

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[–] 16642434? 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) 11 days ago

Only a faggot would refer to himself as that.

Only a faggot would refer to himself as that.

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[–] 16642755? 1 points 0 points 1 points (+1|-1) 11 days ago

What a faggot calling people faggots.

What a faggot calling people faggots.

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[–] 16641262? 0 points 11 points 11 points (+11|-0) 11 days ago

What kind of helicopters did the Argentina military use to throw commies into the ocean? We need a bunch of those.

What kind of helicopters did the Argentina military use to throw commies into the ocean?  We need a bunch of those.

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[–] 16642723? 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) 11 days ago

Chile...

And it was Blackhawks I believe.

Chile...

And it was Blackhawks I believe.

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[–] 16642973? 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 11 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_flights#The_Dirty_War_in_Argentina

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_flights#The_Dirty_War_in_Argentina

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[–] 16648584? 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) 11 days ago

LOL I confess that's a secret dream of mine.

LOL  I confess that's a secret dream of mine.

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[–] 16652012? 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 11 days ago

I have the t-shirt, but realistically am practically way too old.

I have the t-shirt, but realistically am practically way too old.

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[–] 16641744? 0 points 9 points 9 points (+9|-0) 11 days ago

I agree. Ran this video by some military fresh back from over sees. They have all said it's an OP. That the helicopter was dressed for action. Not atypical of practice.

It's a great day to be a Patriot.

I agree. Ran this video by some military fresh back from over sees. They have all said it's an OP.  That the helicopter was dressed for action. Not atypical of practice. 

It's a great day to be a Patriot.

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[–] 16649164? 1 points -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) 11 days ago

Train how you fight

Train how you fight

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[–] 16661841? 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) 10 days ago

First off we train far away from civilians State side due to liability and optics. Even in shit hole counties they stay away from urban areas at night due to collateral damage.

First off we train far away from civilians State side due to liability and optics. Even in shit hole counties they stay away from urban areas at night due to collateral damage.

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