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[–] 15316889? 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I knew that all the time... I am in Germany and followed especially the Maidan-shit in Ukraine very well.

It was interesting, how this "movement" was developing.

GERMANY played a very BAD ROLE here. And no German citizen knew that. It all happened behind closed doors.

First there was that deal the EU was offering to Ukraine, but it was a bad deal, because it demanded, that the Ukraine would have to cut connections to Russia. And the (elected) president Victor Janukovitch was allied with Russia.

Then there were some demonstrations, people were unhappy... too low wages, too much corruption... etc.. and suddenly they were about "EU". The "EUROMAIDAN" was born.

But I always said, it will not work in the eastern part. Because eastern part of Ukraine always was more Russian. The country was divided. And, something else everyone with a brain knew: Putin never would give up Crimea and his military harbour Seavastopol Putin is a rather patient guy, but this was too much! Giving Sevastopol to NATO. No Way!! (and I understood that).

I remember, that in 2013 those demonstrations started. It was like a big party. But me and my friends thought in November 2013, that that "party" was over. Because it got cold! People were freezing and going home. And in the eastern part of Ukraine nothing happened at all. Some smaller "Maidan-style" demonstration even was chased away by citizens! I remember a rather funny video from Lugansk! REally, people still were making fun of the whole situation there! That was so shocking for me, because I knew people from ukraine and I knew how they were living... and I think many of them just did not really expect how quickly the situation would turn really serious!

So, it seems the whole "maidan" was over in November 2013.

Well, but then... things suddenly changed. Suddenly John McNoname appeared. And Madeleine Albright was on Maidan. And that Klitschko-moron - who lived in Germany that time! Remember, he was a "german celebrity" then.

Then I found out, that especially the German Green party (I liked them 20 years ago! But now they are totally SOROS) was involved in that. And the Green Party has a foundation - "Heinrich Böll Foundation" (- remember famous Germam writer Heinrich Böll? He was very much loved by the "alternative" youth in the 80ties... later it was revealed he had... CIA-connections! - but died already in 1985. I never really cared for this Foundation -always thought it was for supporting young writers and alternative life style.... but, seems they had a more political agenda...! https://www.boell.de/en/foundation/heinrich-boell -and, honeslty, I wonder where they get all their money from..)

Back to Ukraine. After Noname had been there the SHIT HIT THE FAN. Svoboda fascists appeared. And German media was totally calm about that (although they usually claim seeing "nazis" everywhere). Then these sniper shootings happened in february...

And then in May 2014 the really HORRIBLE Attack on the Union building in Odessa! THis was really shocking. I watched some videos on youtube. That was War. I saw a dying woman with missing arm and leg... blood everywhere... I saw pictures of half burned dead people inside the building. Who ever did that was not human. That was so shocking because it happened so unexpected. People were upset. But till today it still stays officially "unresolved", what exactly happenend.

Putin always was patient. He never started a real war. But of course he would never leave Crimea to NATO. And of course people living in the eastern part of Ukraine were more russia friendly. So Putin did some "secret warfare" - as we know now - which maybe is not legal. But was that Coup d'Etat in Kiew legal? Who the heck was that "Jazenjuk", who now was president? A banker, probaly with "connections"...

And then that bitch Julia Timoshenko! horrible person, who went to jail. But... few years ago, GERMANY invited her for some medical treatment to Charité in Berlin! --WTF??? You see, Germany again! What the hell is Germany's role in that whole shit?? https://www.charite.de/service/pressemitteilung/artikel/detail/charite_aerzte_behandeln_julia_timoschenko/

Then the new ukrainian Government (Janzenjuk) sent military to the east (Donetsk, Lugansk) and the shit hit the fan...
Putin then quickly occupied crimea and made that referendum - and I think people of Crimea are happy about that, because not one bullet was shot in Crimea. But that'sjust what I read - maybe in a bit too Russia-friendly sources... ;) - but I tend to believe them here. Putin is a smart guy who does not like to start a war, if not necessary. And the Deep State always was provoking him. Putin never ever would have given up Crimea. And not to the Deep State!

oh, sorry is a bit long and a bit inaccurate. maybe you can add or correct something. But maybe you understand my discontent with the whole Ukraine-Maidan-shit and that I tend to take Putin's site here. Especially as a German citizen, who really was surprised to learn what my government was involved here, and how secretly this happened.

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[–] 15317023? [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Exactly. I personally interviewed countless Russians and Ukrainians to get the real story on this. Thank you for sharing this