“Is Donald Trump Right About Military Tribunals?” Opinions by Kayleigh McEnany CNN Reporter, August 16, 2016
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(CNN) Donald Trump has come under fire for recommending US citizens accused of terrorism be prosecuted before military tribunals. But despite the criticism, Trump's concerns are not only merited -- they are, in fact, within the bounds of the law… (excerpt from article)
Trump's novel idea was met with criticism that his proposal was "in violation of federal law" or even "unconstitutional." While the Military Commissions Act of 2006 limits military tribunal trials to non-citizens only, the federal law argument is still a flawed critique.
Consider the exact words of what Trump proposed. Trump was asked by a reporter, "Would you try to get military commissions to try U.S. citizens?" To which he replied, "Well, I know that they want to try them in our regular court systems, and I don't like that at all. I don't like that at all. I would say they could be tried there, that would be fine."
From this, critics assumed he would circumvent or violate federal law rather than attempt to change it.
This assumption came despite Trump previously clarifying, in regards to the use of enhanced interrogation methods, "I do ... understand that the United States is bound by laws and treaties, and I will not order our military or other officials to violate those laws and will seek their advice on such matters." Given Trump's deferral to authorities on matters of interrogation, we have no reason to assume his answer on military tribunals meant that he would necessarily violate US law.
Some critics have also suggested that Trump's remarks would run afoul not only of the constitution but also of precedent, alleging that no prior US president has used military tribunals to try American citizens. That, however, isn't the case.
As the Washington Times points out, the eight co-conspirators of John Wilkes Booth, President Abraham Lincoln's assassin, were all tried in military court. Lincoln's attorney general reasoned that this was permissible since they had associated with an enemy of the United States and had violated the laws of war, the universally accepted rules and customs for engaging in conflict.
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt likewise used military courts to try eight German saboteurs during World War II, including two US citizens.
Some skeptics might point to Ex Parte Milligan, a civil war era case where the Supreme Court decided that military courts did not have jurisdiction over US citizens if civilian courts were open. Though this may seem damning to Trump's proposal, Ex Parte Quirin, a 1942 case dealing with Roosevelt's trial of the German saboteurs, suggests otherwise. In Quirin, the court found that two US citizens could be tried before a military tribunal because they were "in violation of the law of war."
The court distinguished this case from Milligan by noting that Milligan involved a citizen in Union territory who was conspiring to aid the Confederate forces but had not yet done so, and thus was not associated with the enemy. By contrast, the two citizens in Quirin, "associate[d] themselves with the military arm of an enemy government, and with its aid, guidance, and direction enter[ed] this country bent on hostile acts." Hence, they were "enemy belligerents within the meaning of the Hague Convention and the law of war."
With this precedent in mind, it seems that a US citizen accused of terrorism, such as Anwar al-Awlaki, would be a prime candidate for a military tribunal much like the two Quirin saboteurs. Al-Awlaki, a U.S. imam who joined Al Qaeda and advised recruits on how to build explosives, was killed by a drone strike in Yemen in 2011.
And while all U.S. citizens merit due process as required by the 5th and 14th Amendments and the various other constitutional guarantees for criminal procedure, there is at least some precedent for military tribunal applications to US citizens.
In an age when our heinous enemies are intent on violating the laws of war, it is admirable to see a US presidential candidate -- namely Donald Trump -- rethinking our so-far failed response.
https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/16/opinions/trump-military-tribunals-american-citizens-mcenany/index.html
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[–] 14363960? 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Maybe you should have rattled off some key points as well. Someone might look it up.
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Doing actual research is inconsistent with the lefty mindset.
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I wouldn't listen anything on CNN - the fake news media.
America is still in a State of War since 9/11. Justice K is in, and he knows the law on this. They are going to do it. No Name already executed I'm sure of it, and that's probably by Military Tribunal.
[–] 14367921? [S] ago
Agree but posted so that if the topic were discussed with someone undecided, can truthfully state that yes cnn did an article that agreed ton military tribunals. Also in the furture if cnn attacks the use of military tribunals, it proves fake. When I do read something on cnn, it is typically to see what details are omitted.
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I understand your logic. Thanks Anon for clarification.
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Normally, I do not, either. But these are not normal times. It is interesting to see how slowly drippingly, positive remarks are made. That does not invalidate the fact they are still really fake news.
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Just look through Q Drops on Hitler https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/615935.html#616618
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Under martial law, could it be possible?
[–] 14365843? 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I thought this was basically settled with Graham's line of questioning at Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings
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Yes, that line was questioning along with Justice Kavanaugh's response to how he would like to be remembered was great and informative. This article proves cnn reported in agreement in '16 in case they change their narrative in the future.