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[–] 4111860? 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I have a question: what do you mean when you tag a post as "concern troll", or call a user that same name?


[–] kevdude 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago  (edited ago)

It means that they are coming in with a "question" but their intention is really to attack us. When someone like you asks questions about PV in good faith it is in an effort to learn more. If there is something that you disagree with, you state your position on the issue and give your opinion so that we can debate further or we can agree to disagree. A concern troll already has their opinion formed but repeatedly engages in the same debate over and over again. For example there are users on this site who believe in strict moderation. We have debated it, fought over it, and debated again when they have come in here. I know who they are. You do not see me go into their subs and repeatedly ask "Don't you think strict moderation is going to turn us into reddit?" for the purpose of wasting their time and attempting to get them to let me use their subs as platforms to attack them.

Here are the definitions I found online:

A concern troll is a person who participates in a debate posing as an actual or potential ally who simply has some concerns they need answered before they will ally themselves with a cause. In reality they are a critic.

To rephrase:

A person who posts on a blog thread, in the guise of "concern," to disrupt dialogue or undermine morale by pointing out that posters and/or the site may be getting themselves in trouble, usually with an authority or power. They point out problems that don't really exist. The intent is to derail, stifle, control, the dialogue. It is viewed as insincere and condescending.

This one describes how the trolls' actions will appear:

A typical formulation might involve the troll's invocation of a site's espoused ideals alongside a perceived example of hypocrisy, and with a call for some relevant reform by the troll. This reform will frequently be burdensome or silly - the concern troll's message is: "I have some concerns about your methods. If you did these things to make your message less effective, it would be more effective."

One common tactic of concern trolls is the "a plague on both your houses" approach, where the concern troll tries to convince people that both sides of the ideological divide are just as bad as each other, and so no one can think themselves "correct" but must engage in endless hedging and caveats. This preys on a willingness to debate critics and allow dissent; everyone wastes time discussing the matter and bending over backwards, so as not to appear intolerant of disagreement, all to the great amusement of the troll.


[–] Techius 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

"I have some concerns about your methods. If you did these things to make your message less effective, it would be more effective."

I'm pretty sure you added that bit in.

You also listed no source. I call bullshit.