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[–] Charley 3 points 17 points (+20|-3) ago 

Your right to not be offended is nowhere near as important as someone's free speech offending you.

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[–] Frums [S] 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I'm not really talking about being offended : I'm talking about flooding a website with activism. If voat become solely a platform for white pride, it may reduce its diversity, and I think it is a problem.

Plus : If I talk about engineering in a cooking sub, I guess mods will tell me to go away, and they would be right : I'm not in the good sub.

Are nationalist and fascist propagandas at their true places when they flood in v/news or v/worldnews ? Is a title qualifying black people of apes or migrants of invaders acceptable in subs with information purpose ?

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[–] pepepepepe 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

News is news. They're motivated to submit things that interest them. Why aren't you? Don't rain on people's parades, make a better parade with blackjack and hookers.

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[–] rusk 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If I talk about engineering in a cooking sub, I guess mods will tell me to go away, and they would be right : I'm not in the good sub.

He does have a point there, but again if we start censoring now it could get ugly

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[–] tiber 4 points 14 points (+18|-4) ago 

so why are mods allowing this in popular default subs ?

Because voat isn't populated by nazi-mods.

Go be a nigger somewhere else.

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[–] Frums [S] 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Clever answer my friend. So mods are there for what exactly, if no rules apply to nothing ?

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[–] tiber 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Pruning spam and generally being cumdumpsters.

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[–] PiercingAjarDolphin 6 points 14 points (+20|-6) ago 

Free speech except for all the things I don't like. It's the classic entrance to the slippery slope.

Say Atko puts a site wide ban on racism. Bam, all racists gone. Then someone says "but Atko, there's people hating fat people too, why don't we ban then? If you don't ban those, then you're a hipocrite!" then Atko bans fat haters and they're gone. Then someone says "But Atko, there's people who hate women, can't we ban them too?" Then Atko just decides "you know what community? Let's just fucking ban ALL the hate subs, because I'm tired of this skeet shooting" and then Atko does that and then he also conveniently changes the name to Reddit 2.0. And then we have the slogan "Just like Reddit, but with less of everything!"

You people haven't learned anything it seems.

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[–] o_V_o 11 points 0 points (+11|-11) ago 

You people haven't learned anything it seems.

Neither have you. You faggots need to learn to keep your shit in check. To put it in words you people might understand: You are no different than some fat welfare check cashing niggress shaking her head while telling us that she do what she want. You are our dindus. Get it?

..and for me personally, you're just like OWS or BLM: While I might agree on a few of your points I would never support you because of how you present those points. I've said this very thing about OWS and BLM: Are you trying to convince others that you have a point, or just acting out like shitty teenagers? You don't get to do both — make your choice.

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[–] PiercingAjarDolphin 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I'm saying whatever the fuck I want to say, because I really don't care about convincing idiots. I like to call out their stupidy though and judging from my upvoats, people agree with that too. Being all "melady" or "You sir, art a buffon!" or stupid passive aggressive shit like that is what made Reddit into the shithole it is. I could care less about how politically incorrect I am because if you need some kind of mental security in how I "present my points" then you're not the person I'm addressing here.

I'm done policing myself and being articulate with idiots. I promised myself when I started commenting on this site that I would be honest about everything. If I wanted to call someone a retarded fuckwit, I would. And yes, let's get that out of the way immediately: I'm calling you a retarded fuckwit, because you are one that can't learn from your past mistakes. You were on Reddit, you saw what censorship did to that place, you saw the slippery slope HAPPEN IN MOTHERFUCKING REAL TIME SLOWMO WITH EXTRA CUNTSUCKING DETAILS and yet you're so fucking stupid that you want to repeat that here again. Reddit is perhaps the worlds best and most well documented case of the slippery slope censorship event and how it can turn a community into blithering idiots. And yet you learn absolutely nothing from that because you want to do that same shit here. So yes, I'm calling you a fucking moron. But you know what's even more insulting to call you? A typical Redditor.

Also for the record, just like all the other fucking morons that can't let go of Reddit, you automatically assume I'm part of a hate group because I advocate free speech. I love how you fuckers are closet fascists when you lump everyone into "us or them" camps. You don't even realize it even for a second because you're all too happy to fall into the same trap again.

So really, to emphasize my point: GTFO and go back home to Reddit, you'd obviously be more happy there.

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[–] Nationalist 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

You faggots need to learn to keep your shit in check.

Who is "you faggots"? You mean the people on Voat who are weary of censorship. Because that's most of us.

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[–] Frums [S] 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Oooh, didn't know about this individual ban thing, nice. But here my point is : you can ban v/niggers, it comes back through v/news, and non racist subs are still spreading racist stuff.

Being on the internet mean I can decide what I want to watch, and it's the exact purpose to block subvoat. If voat turns solely into a giant racist propaganda website, people won't come for news and cat pics...

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[–] whiteguy88 4 points 9 points (+13|-4) ago 

The whole point of users voting is to determine what goes on the front page and what not. If you want a safe space, go to reddit.

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[–] o_V_o 7 points 8 points (+15|-7) ago  (edited ago)

Not that I don't think what you're talking about is a problem (I see it more of a college freshmen overdoing it because they no longer have to listen to their parents thing.. in other words, they're immature assholes). On the other hand, I just blocked a sub (that I wouldn't have been able to do if I wasn't signed in... that's the problem @atko, seriously) called "tinycurves". WTF? I can deal with hatred, but sexualizing infants/children (even young teens) is where I draw the line. That shit needs to be removed. It has nothing to do with "speech" free or otherwise.

Completely deleting that sub would be acceptable... but if it was up to me, I'd go further and send every single subscriber's IP to the authorities. You people are fucking creeps and need to be exterminated, not just from this site, but from this planet. You are not welcome.

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[–] Frums [S] 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

I don't consider permitting hate speech propaganda as respecting free speech though. Also this is litteraly what we do in France (and what many have hard times to understand) : free speech is granted until it becomes hate speech or terrorism apology, which is considered harmful to others and as so forbidden. Maybe my views are biased on this, but that seems kinda fair, like "good" freedom : do what you want unless it's harmful to others.

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[–] Laurentius_the_pyro 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Once you ban bad free speech you ban all free speech

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[–] o_V_o 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I didn't downvoat you, but... TBH, I have no idea how your comment is related to mine.

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[–] Sosacms 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

We're all adults here, filter your own content. If you want a babysitter to filter it for you, go back to Reddit and see where that leads.

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[–] Scandinavian 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

I agree that there's a lot of single-minded stories around, but I certainly don't agree anything should be done about it.

Americans, you need to understand that our countries are changing. And fast. It's bound to create massive waves when Europe's population is being replaced as fast as it is.

We don't have a 'sink or swim' culture like you do. Our 'Mexicans' don't start their new life working hard to better their lives through hard work, they sit in ghettos collecting thousands of dollars in support.

Because that's how we've decided to run our countries. Now we're confused as what to do when millions and millions of people who don't share our implicit 'way of doing things' arrive and think "oh, great - you can actually lead a decent life not doing shit".

Add violence (the Middle East is a dominance/clan culture), add rape ("ha, women out at night? SLUTS!"), add machismo ("like I give a fuck what the female teacher says, she's just a woman, haha") and you've got yourself a nice storm brewing.

It's going to be like that for a couple of months until Europe figures out what to do. Pray that our governments manage to figure out how we can help these refugees/migrants in their local area, otherwise I'm afraid the current right-populist parties will look like Mandela compared this turmoil will give rise to.

Submit better content and live with being offended. That's all I can say.

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