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[–] Scandinavian 8 points 71 points (+79|-8) ago 

IN THIS COMMENT FIELD, SJW/IRC PEOPLE WILL TRY TO DERAIL THE INFORMATION OF THE POST. DO NOT TAKE THE BAIT.

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[–] mr_skeltal 1 points 20 points (+21|-1) ago 

The first couple came on far too strong and warned us.

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[–] [deleted] 8 points 56 points (+64|-8) ago 

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[–] Scandinavian 3 points 30 points (+33|-3) ago  (edited ago)

While I agree with your thoughtful post, I'd just like to say I personally do not want control of AskVoat or any default. I have a job already - any time consuming task on Voat would include me getting paid ... :)

Jokes aside: I want AskVoat to be transferred to the community, only modded by @system (ie. no mods).

This is what I am fighting for and have been fighting for a long time. I warned both Atko and Puttitout against this situation.

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[–] Kal 4 points 13 points (+17|-4) ago  (edited ago)

If the owners of this site are going to side with the cabal maybe the entire community should just jump ship and let them sit around here alone jerking each other off.
Power with no one to push around is pretty boring, I'd assume.

As a community we could make this place a ghost town before it could even be reddit 2.0. We could remember it as reddit 1.1

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[–] Vvswiftvv17 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I'm pretty sure Putitout was the cofounder who codesigned this site. Ergo, he isn't going anywhere. Seriously though - how can one site have this much control over you dude? If this goes the way of reddit so what? We move on. Take a break and step away from the computer for a while. It's not like your husband is recovering from kidney cancer and your about to be evicted from your home or something ( that's my life). Get some perspective!

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[–] Rea11yN0tMe [S] 1 points 23 points (+24|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I got this as private message from /u/Scandinavian:

Hi buddy, I have written up my whole post. Alas, I have been blocked from Voat, can't submit anything. I know, it's crazy.

If you get this, could you please make it as a post in ProtectVoat? If yes, I'll send you my whole typed posts.

Afterwards he send me the text above.

I got this blocked message: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/18/3b52d9f195f3681afa7fc0194cf5e92f.jpg

But I think /u/Scandinavian is blocked differently than I was because he apparently can access Voat and read his private messages, while I could not access Voat at all.


Edit 1: And a further small tidbit, he send me the text for the above submission via email.

Edit 2: Archive of this submission https://archive.is/jfF8L

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[–] mindful 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Thanks for clearing it up. This drama is getting more dramatic by the day. It's really ridiculous.

I got this blocked message: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/18/3b52d9f195f3681afa7fc0194cf5e92f.jpgJPG

You got the message after posting on his behalf? So is this your main account or an alt? Have you now been unblocked? (i know, many questions, sorry!)

Who is able to impose these kinds of blocks? Surely only admins, right? If so, i don't think Atko would be the one to go through with bans in these way. Must be Puttitout. Great knowing an admin will block people that oppose his actions/ideas. :(

Pining @mindful? What does that mean (engl isn't my native language) ? I've never heard that term before and the translator pons.eu provides does not make any sense in this context.

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[–] spooz 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I've had that same blocked message before. For me at least it just so happened my IP had changed after my router had dropped then re-established a connection, to one that fell foul of the automated DDOS protection. Nothing sinister. Maybe it was just a coincidence?

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[–] TheBuddha 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That looks like the CDN (CloudFlare) is blocking your actions based on the traffic pattern - perhaps refreshing too often or other things that make it seem like you may be part of a distributed denial of service attack. That was not blocking done by Voat themselves. You wouldn't be running a bot to do unsavory things, would you? If not then, well, wait a minute and it should clear up. Try accessing with a free VPN or proxy service. I don't think Voat actually blocks anyone at this time. I kind of prefer it that way.

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[–] mindful 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I'd like to know this as well.

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[–] Scandinavian 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I have now been unblocked, it seems.

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[–] SwiftLion 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

I just have to say, guys, I’m very impressed. I won’t pass personal judgment on atko and puttitout just yet, because people make mistakes and they should have a chance to rectify them. That being said, I sincerely believe this post and others like it are a sign that this community is capable and dedicated to upholding thr values that keep free speech and sincere discussion at the core of what makes Voat a place worth being.

Keep it up! You have my support and the support of countless others as well. If your voices go silent, I’ll go looking for you and others like you in the far flung corners of the web, but I sincerely hope we have a long time together here before that happens.

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[–] Mr_Sir 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Thanks for taking the time to post all of this and keeping us updated. I'm on the sidelines here, but it sad to see how quickly Voat has started to look like that other site. Hopefully, @atko will respond soon with his opinion on the matter and offer some sort of resolution. I really just want to get back to how Voat use to be..for the short time I've been here so far. Thanks again!

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[–] Scandinavian 6 points 13 points (+19|-6) ago 

Thanks mate.

I, too, share your exhaustion. I'm telling you from experience: this is the one chance we get. If we don't fight the Reddit clique now, we won't be able to later.

We fight to end the fight. They fight because that's all they know how to do. Look at SRS. Look at Subredditdrama. Look at the users from those subs. They don't contribute, they're basically parasites on Reddit.

We lost AskVoat for now and we lost an admin who's very, very chummy with the Reddit clique. Let's stop the buck here.

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[–] benender 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Mind fucking BLOWN. I just had to unsub and block FPH as 12_years_a_toucan and homer are mods there, and everywhere the drama, she, or space rosa are mentioned they show up to white knight for their cause. We'd been wondering why we couldn't post anything talking about feminism and sjw's anymore, now it looks like we know. Then come to find out that puttiout has been kissing the SJWs asses all over the place.....this is sad, they went reddit 2.0 in RECORD TIME! Took reddit years to implode, took voat months.

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[–] CaliforniaOrange 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Wow, I'm out of the loop. What the fuck is happening with Voat? Did this website buckle under the weight already? I hope not, but for fucks sake, if Voat goes down I'm washing my hand of user communities using an up/down voting system.

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[–] Moosh_Banger 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Yeah if this place sinks I'll be off to the chans and never look back.

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[–] CaliforniaOrange 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I want to hear something from Atko soon, or I'll be out. The community wants a response, I hope to see one soon. I'm not waiting around, I didn't wait on reddit and I'm not waiting here.

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[–] Atko 12 points 10 points (+22|-12) ago  (edited ago)

Typing this from phone, so I will have to keep it short:

We are not blocking anyone from posting anything. There is a daily posting quota for users with negative CCP and you can see this in the sourcecode. Where is your proof for this IP blocking claim, I'd love to fucking see it? Protectvoat my ass, you are doing all you can to harm voat.

Unmodding she will not solve anything. Fatpeoplehate mods ban users who go against their agenda of hating people. Should we take over their subverse too? Fuck that logic.

I have another idea to solve the mod drama site-wide and this one will take some time to implement and try out. Keep on spreading bullshit though, you're doing gods work at "protecting voat".

Edit: I investigated "you have been blocked" reports that several other users reported and it turned out to be irrelevant CF firewall rulesets which were getting triggered, causing the error message. These are for example SQL injection attempts, but I don't think that @Scandinavian has been blocked by this ruleset because if he was, even you wouldn't be able to post what he tried to post. I apologize for sounding like an ass, but your post did make it sound as if I or Puttiout intentionally blocked Scandinavian from posting to Voat. We did not block him from posting to Voat.

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[–] CptCmdrAwesome 2 points 12 points (+14|-2) ago 

Where is your proof for this IP blocking claim, I'd love to fucking see it? Protectvoat my ass, you are doing all you can to harm voat.

Keep on spreading bullshit though, you're doing gods work at "protecting voat".

blink ... blink ...

Yeah fuck this, I'm gone.

I put way, way too much time and effort into trying to bring solid, evidence-based reason to all this, to then be categorically dismissed along with those who have shared the burden.

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[–] Rea11yN0tMe [S] 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

And if blame is to be appropriated for that fiasco that is SheGate, we are certainly not the only ones that should get our share of your righteous anger.

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[–] SurvivorType 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

This is actually the side of you I love to see. Stay real, Atko.

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[–] hedgehogforafoot 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I'm not sure why people can't just block the sub and move on if they don't like it. It's not even a default anymore.

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[–] ThisWeirdIndividual 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

People are afraid that if they are allowed to have a foothold in Voat they'll be able to corrupt the site entirely given enough time. Because this is what they do

Now I'm not positive that She or anyone close to her are these kind of persons, I don't know for sure (even if they do seem suspicious ).

People are perhaps over cautious, or perhaps really lucid. Time will say. I'd advocate to keep things reasonable and maintain moral and ethical high ground by behaving in a very measured way... But I guess it's too late already .

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[–] LOLThatsJustRetarded 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Voat is very obviously going to morph into reddit. There is no point in investing time or resources in this venture. Kill it now, in it's cradle, or we will have two reddit's to deal with.

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[–] Moosh_Banger 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Let's not just hand this place over to the Cabal just yet, at least not without a fight. I'm still hopeful that we can nip this problem in the bud before it becomes systemic.

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