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[–] kevdude 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You are a fucking hypocrite. You defended @HenryCorp so you should have no problem with this guy stating his opinion. I agree that @Rummel should respect the rights of others (even shills) to state their opinions. But you sir, are a hypocrite.

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[–] Artofchoke 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

A shill doesn't have a opinion. They're performing a service, usually for financial compensation. It falls more under the guise of spam than speech.

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[–] Crensch 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Not sure I agree with that wording, but shills should not be allowed to get a foothold here, and it's fairly easy to become reasonably certain when an account is a shill.

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[–] 5454601 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I think that mamwad is trying to point out how "Rummel is under the impression that anyone who says they support Hillary is a shill who must be flushed out of Voat" (or that is at least one way that his comments could be interpreted), which isn't necessarily true for even a group as small as "Hillary supporters on Voat".

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[–] kevdude 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Funny how @mamwad had no problem with @HenryCorp stating that users of specific subverses should be banned from Voat altogether. It's almost as if he has an agenda.

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[–] Crensch 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Yeah, I don't believe legitimate Hillary or Bernie or whatever supporters should be run off.

I'm not sure I agree with Rummel's wording, is what I was saying.

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[–] 0iamlordeyayaya0 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

@rummel isn't a mod of v/politics. It appears yr buddy cupcake still is.

So are you just trying to attack a random voater who disagrees with you?

Edit: oops created then systemed by cupcakegate

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[–] kevdude 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

@rummel - you never did hop in here to clarify. The way to beat the shills is to argue with them with facts and embarrass them. Suppressing views is what they have to resort to because their position is weak to begin with. Allowing open discussion and then destroying them in debate for all to see is a far better approach than starting witch hunts. Moderators are one thing because they have unfair advantages over active users. Users have their voice and their votes and can not silence others. Those who try to say that downvotes are the same as deletions are wrong. A downvoted comment can still be viewed in its original context and can be upvoted. A deleted comment gets dumped into the modlog and pulled out of its thread. Big difference.

Be better than the authoritarian left. Do this by not being the authoritarian right. Be a rational individual and defend your positions against those who can only make emotional appeals and cry for things they don't like to be silenced.

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[–] Rummel 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Hi there. I am a troll. I don't intend to ever moderate v/politics, I joked about it a few months ago when the v/politics @alliee or whatever the shit, removed my post about talking shit on Bernie, but even if i was offered, I'd turn it down. @flyawayhigh does a fine job of moderating, and we've all been keeping an eye on anything that goes shady like last december.

I believe everything I say, I'm a huge Trump fan, I am just very incendiary about it because I can be, and it's popular. Influence is pretty much the name of the game in politics, so I do intend to be influential, but I don't want power here. I'd make my own subverse first.

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[–] flyawayhigh 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I was just reading one of your awful posts when this ping popped up. 76 upvoats and one downvoat -- you think there might be a hive mind here yet? :D

Anyway, v/politics will remain free speech as long as I'm there. On that, we agree.

@0iamlordeyayaya0, I am not the original cupcake -- I am an artificial cupcake with transfats and poison sugar substitutes -- but the sidebar that he made remains virtually unchanged.