I came to this hypothesis based on a discussion here https://voat.co/v/Philosophy/2655359
So for definitions 1st
So by "abstract things" I mean anything our mind(or any mind) can think of as well as Aristotelean Metaphysics(https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-metaphysics/) ie. eternal concepts(or axioms) that (supposedly) exist outside of anything we would call the material or the real world.
What is a "mind"? For my purpose any logic processing unit ie. any sufficiently advanced "CPU" which does not even necessarily have to have conciousness
So we can both think about things that are there in the material world(trees, animals, clouds etc.), things that aren't there but could be(either future or past ie. dinosaurs or space ships) and things that are purely abstract like say mathematical concepts..
So we are not going to discuss real or possible things just the purely abstract.. so "logic" itself
So certain philosophies (like Aristotle) say that the rules of logic are axiomatic and don't arrise from anything ie. the principle of "frist philosophy" for the purposes of this discussion it does not matter what those rules are.
I think most would agree that there are 2 fundamental states of being(?)
chaos being a space of undefined quantities and properties, order being a space of defined quantities and properties
So can axioms exist in a space of chaos? Does 1+1=2 in an undefined space? can you say anything with a certainty in an undefined space?
I think most would agree that the answert to that is, no.
So we can say that we can't know "chaos" because chaos is by definition unknowable, right?
And once and only then when we have a space of order axioms emerge, right?
Are there certain axioms that always emerge no matter which reality/universe emerges? possibly but I am not sure how to demonstrate that.
But even if that where so, those axioms might be considered "universal" however they still would need an ordered space to exist in.
So what about things that we can think of that are impossible(by the laws of nature) in our reality, or purely abstract like mathematics or logic or philosophy?
Are they not "real" on some level, just because we can think of them?
I say, no.
Yes they do "exist" in a purely metaphysical space of our minds but they are dependent on it, if you remove the mind you remove them as well ie. they are purely virtual, like things that exist in the RAM of a PC if you turn off the power they get irrevocably lost.
So my contention is that metaphysics can only exist inside of a mind and has no independent means of realization, even if the concepts can repeat them selves in independent minds even of independent realities.
PS. ergo I think the concept of gods is a purerly metaphysical concept, if not proven otherwise, only existing in our minds - which does not take anything away from them (other than their physical exitence) just puts them into their proper place.