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[–] Fact_Checking_Alien ago 

You've shifted the goalpost from "appearing" normal to "reacting" normally. This discussion was never about psychology, but physical appearance. I will not discuss the psychology of characters with you, because we don't disagree, and the point is irrelevant to the true question.

Namely, the fact some people are unhappy with beautiful looking characters. Why shouldn't the female transport adviser be sexy? I'm a homosexual, and that's not a problem for me. That's not a problem for men attracted to beauty. Why should it be a problem for women? Projecting your own feelings of inadequacy onto society is not healthy, and it needs to change into self improvement. By the same argument you might suggest the Greeks were wrong for having nude statues, instead of honestly realizing that sex appeal and beauty are generally the same: We like nudity, we like the human form, and there's nothing wrong with showing it off.

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[–] Bastou ago 

You've shifted the goalpost from "appearing" normal to "reacting" normally.

I've never talked about appearance before you mentioned it. I even re-read all my comment replies to you to make sure. Not even once did I mention appearance. You shifted the meaning of normal in your last reply. I always talked about a normal intellect. In other words, a character that acts like it is human.

The appearance of female characters bothers me a bit less, but the feminist argument remains the same : they don't want to take anything away, they simply want more diversity.

Why shouldn't the female transport adviser be sexy?

Re-read my comment. I never said she couldn't be, I asked why she had to. I even put it in bold so you can see it! The problem isn't that there are sexy women in games. The problem is that there is nothing but sexy women. What feminists want is simply some examples of different women. Anyway, that's the sensible argument. If any feminist says otherwise, then attack them for their point of view.

Just compare the situation of female characters to the one of male characters for a second. There are all types of male characters : handsome, ugly, strong, weak, fat, skinny, and the same goes for personality. Female characters? Sexy, has big bouncing boobs, almost naked, says nothing but "help me" or "fuck me". I'm a heterosexual man myself, and personally, I prefer small to average size boobs. But these are very rare in video games, and I don't even care that much, it just serves as a counter argument that all male players want big breasted naked female characters. Anyway, if I really wanted to see tits, I'd watch porn, I wouldn't play games!

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[–] Fact_Checking_Alien ago 

I think it's becoming clear civility has completely broken down at this point. I think it ridiculous to propose we haven't been discussing physical appearance, because absolutely nobody has been talking about psychology and character reactions. Nobody. That's not at all what any of this has been about.

But again, the crux is: If you want something, make it. The successful people are making games which sell, with characters who are most visually appealing. What you claim as "diversity" in terms of "handsome, ugly, strong, weak, fat, skinny" is ridiculous, because a lot of enemies in games certainly are ugly. A lot of NPC's are certainly weak compared to the protagonist and antagonists. A lot of people certainly will be fat or skinny, and shot as NPC's in Grand Theft Auto. You don't want diversity - you want to prevent ideals from being presented in media.

I also never said "all males want X". I'm saying it sells more. If you disagree, make a game of the type with such characters, normalize them as fat and ugly or whatever, and prove you can sell it. Be positive, and stop winge-ing about it.