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[–] TheEmpress [S] ago 

In what sense was ethnic cleansing against Poles well established? It seems pretty clear at least in general that the popular belief of Hitler wanting to take over the world and wipe everyone out in Lebensraum are intentional distortions of fact to garner hostility in favor of the Allies against the Germans.

Considering how things have turned out all over the West in the aftermath of that war, I tend to think the wrong side won. This is only compounded by information on the Lebensraum myth.

Surely if Germany had won, at least Europe if not North America wouldn't be full of this trash.

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[–] Joe_McCarthy ago  (edited ago)

It's involved, and I'm one that believes Voat is particularly unsuited for topics as nuanced and complicated as Holocaust related issues. I'm not even overly-interested. But here is a place for some basics to start:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Poles_by_Nazi_Germany

If you're interested enough I reckon you could make it a personal project to try and refute it. But that revisionists have not made much of an effort to refute it only hardens its veracity if anything.

I don't agree that the Nazis winning would have been better. The better option would have been no war at all. But that's another involved topic.

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[–] TheEmpress [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Well obviously the better option would have been no war at all, but I meant in terms of if the war was fought anyway who would have been a better victor. Surely Continental Europe would not be flooded with millions of ragheads and niggers, if even the UK chose such a fate regardless and we wouldn't be now bombarded with racial egalitarian myths from hijacked radical leftist institutions (Soviet-funded groups and agents) and holocaust mythology.... and maybe even Israel itself.

As far as the link goes, I question as to how much that was regarding Germany wanting lands back it lost in Versailles as opposed to a new scheme. At any rate, the idea there was a monolithic set-in-stone ethnic cleansing plan enacted by Berlin is a myth as the link in the OP shows and I think that myth has been intentionally perpetuated. Of course, if the issue is ethnic cleansing via expulsion as a reason to declare a side monstrous, then the 14 million displaced by the Allies leaves no room to condemn to Germany. If the Allies can displace millions for political stability, then there's no reason the Axis could not. To wit: The Western powers did it again in the 1990s when they aided the Croats in their war of independence against the dying state of Yugoslavia. Tens of thousands of Serbs were sent packing from Slavonia (where yours truly's mother's family was ethnically cleansed in late 44/early 45 by mostly Serb Partisans) back into Serbia.

1990s footage of Serbs being sent packing back into Serbia from Slavonia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKfE8pIH8V4

Just like the old days.