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[–] Joe_McCarthy [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Speaking in terms of society I'm unsure where you think the West went seriously awry. I like your post more than not but the reference to scholasticism sounds almost medieval. Our civilization had a lot of problems in those days. Mostly having to do with poverty and disease. Unimaginable stuff worthy of the worst Third World shitholes. It also had a fair few extra-European invasions. Mongols, Ottomans, etc., - so though there was no immigration to speak of there was plenty of getting militarily butchered. Batu Khan wiped out like half of Hungary and did much the same to Poland and elsewhere.

Not exactly a bed of roses.

Western Civilization actually reached the height of its power in the 19th century. I'm not sure what that means to you but it probably won't appeal particularly to someone whose idea of grandeur is a Catholic Europe. But even there we had the average person working in horrible factories and such with the industrial revolution.

In America at least the best time was probably the years after WW2. But then I'm a 50s kind of guy I suppose. I'm Joe McCarthy after all.