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[–] Joe_McCarthy 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Because the Allies were supposed to praise the Nazis to the German populace and build them up after having waged a massive war to remove them from power? I find it interesting that Germans still had a basically positive view of Nazism after denazification ended. It only went on for a few years.

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[–] 15116084? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

"de-nazification" was MK ULTRA alpha version. It was literally brainwashing. The first use of "group guilt", they forced Germans to watch fake movie's of all the fake crimes that happened. All the Germans were shocked, not one of them knew that those things happened, because they didint. Of course after they got results from Germany they brought group guilt to the Americas, it's basically how the whole "civil rights" movement started. Seriously look if you don't believe me, all the dates match. It's also why they banned the MLK files from being released for 50 years. They are still locked away until 1027 lol.

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[–] Joe_McCarthy 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Germany was guilty. They started the war. I'd say we saw some good results. Germany became pacifist and a bulwark for post-war peace in Europe. It needed to be defanged and the effort was successful.

Now having said that you are exaggerating the negative nature of the program - if primarily by implication. The Holocaust, for example, was not emphasized much in those years.

More fundamentally is no Nazi excesses, no denazification. You absolve Germany for starting the war.

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[–] TheEmpress [S] ago  (edited ago)

"Denazification" included imposing on them guilt trips, blaming them for everything, and marching them through places like Dachau where they saw hoax "human skin" lampshades.

Both World Wars had much to do with the UK wanting to maintain primacy on the open seas via it's "balance of powers" doctrine.

"We are probably foolish in that we find no reason to declare war on Germany before it builds too many vessels and takes away our trade." -- Lord Balfour as quoted in 1939 - The War That Had Many Fathers, p 38

The UK has always felt threatened by a Germany with a larger navy than it had. It's aggressive stance not only cost the UK of its empire, but it has left it with a smaller navy than Germany now has, anyway.

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[–] Joe_McCarthy ago  (edited ago)

Yeah, there was some Holocaust guilt tripping. I resist the notion it amounted to modern dimensions. I'm of the opinion the guilt tripping is mostly a German product. The WW2 generation in Germany mostly wanted to move on and not talk about it. The 68ers and after is where it intensified. German guilt also helps legitimize the ruling German elite. Otherwise Germans might see them as traitors and collaborators with the victorious powers.

The British didn't have any real choice in WW2. What would have been their position had Hitler achieved an empire from the Urals to the English Channel with all of the resources and ability to build armaments that would have entailed? The British Empire would have existed with the good will of Germany. And the homeland itself would have been subject to German diktats.