[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think the term ‘the West’ is already in use to cover much of that concept. And I find it superior because it does not contain the issues you mention. Though, it does have the issue that not all of the West is actually in the West.

[–] Joe_McCarthy [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yes, more or less. Plus it is much more well known and well established. But it too has issues if one is concerned with matters of exclusion. 'Europe' tends to better include Russia and countries closer to its cultural sphere than 'Western'. Calling Russia Western is extremely problematic. But then so is the whole pan-European ideal. A white American really has no business viewing Russia as a friendly state. It is more romantic than realistic.

[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I have to admit that even as I was writing my post I was reflecting on the different uses of East and West in different contexts (Cold War parlance would place much of Europe in the East, for instance), as well as Russia being both East and West as a matter of geography.

[–] NorthernMan 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

In Asatru circles there's an outlook that the US is a spiritual Germania 2.0

Freedom of speech, movement, right to bear arms, property, and many white tribes (such as states and their cultural differences)

[–] Oswy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The West is a politico-cultural sphere. Europe is a bit more of a biological term, taking in our biological kin who haven't shared our same exact cultural trajectory, with Greater Europe well representing the fact of European biological expansion, yes. There's a kind of extra onion layer beyond this too, with the Aryan world, taking in the more distant cousins beyond Europe, in the Near East, Central and Southern Asia. I would say all these categories have some use in some contexts, and that all are fuzzy around the edges, so there's lots of room for pragmatism even if you accept the reality of such broad groupings. I would say that the nature of our present reality is forcing us to confront such issues more often. They now have an impact on our real life daily affairs. My own family spreads across several of these spheres, and this is becoming more common. It will be interesting to see if certain groupings become more or less prominent in this situation.

[–] 1Iron_Curtain 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Latin America is essentially a part of Africa-Siberia in my opinion and technically more so a part of Africa. I consider the United States to be heading in this direction, but it falls just within the European sphere because of its European majority population.

Canada and Australia fit into those categories though pretty neatly. Turner was just a Puritan cowboy(believe me I like the Puritans, but I am going to call him that), who believed like Roosevelt that Americans should all blend into a melting pot. I think this whole line of argument is very anti-American. Yes, white Americans are an oddity in many ways. They are not very Eurocentric and when they are they do so without noticing it and then throw it aside. I think you will find throughout the New World, except in places with a very European population surrounded by a lot of colored peoples, as seen in the case of South Africa.

Americans, Canadians, Australians, and New Zealanders all fit into this category. I actually find Canadians and Australians seem to be the most Eurocentric. I would say Argentina falls outside of the European sphere, but it sort of falls within a crypto-version of it. I have met an Argentinian or two who were part Native and they were very Eurocentric. The British have just considered the Europeans on the continent as war-mongering and troublesome kooks. The Russians fit into the Eurasian sphere mostly, but they have tried to fit into that European sphere of influence, starting with Peter the Great. Don't think they successfully made it and I think Putin wants to, but is fine with just unifying himself with the Orthodox world. Americans are weirder from my perspective in that they seem to identify almost with a confluence of naturalistic pragmatism and religious kookishness.

I think there has never been a people more practical and realistic than the American people. Their striving is one of attempting to find the spiritual in the material and to have it emanate throughout the rest of existence and into the very starry skies.