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[–] alalzia ago 

overall feel that Western Europe and the U.S. form some sort of overarching entity though. A Western Europe not closely allied with the U.S. seems an aberration to me.

European neoliberals will drop relations with the US if Trump likes are keep on getting elected . Right now all the money flows to the US and by the time German money start going that way they EU bureaucrats will strike . You think all those gargantuan fines to facebook and google happen because they care about our privacy ?

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[–] Joe_McCarthy [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Europeans dropping the US security guarantee means they'll have to spend money they don't have on defense. Plus there are too many European states that want the US over any plausible alternative. Poland, Romania, and the Baltic states are going to take a Franco-German military bloc over what they get now? No way.

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[–] alalzia 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

True , US is subsiding European defense yet #1 priority of politicians is to be re-elected and #2 to serve their financial overlords . Trump's economic policy is destroying #1 and #2 at the same time . As about blocks in WW2 Germany took over France because the French didn't want to fight , they were disappointing by their governments and understood the futility of sacrificing 6 more millions of men or more to defend against someone they didn't particularly hated .

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[–] alalzia ago 

Both EU and US are into a crazy circles of QE so trade doesn't matter .