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[–] Joe_McCarthy 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

A lot of truth to that. The Southern aristocracy was also primarily responsible for the civil war. The common Southerner was just defending his home and family from what he saw as an invasion.

The Southern upper class didn't even produce much in the way of enduring high culture for us to remember them by either. The gentlemen of South Carolina LARPed as Englishmen copying them, for example. We got some presidents and generals mostly. Some of the generals waged war against the US, killing Americans in a war where more died than any other in our history.

Southerners tell me their food has flavor. A lot of that is due to African influence...

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[–] leRoux 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Fair points, Joe. The people who suffered the most were the average Southern farming folk. Cavalier culture had some admirable qualities like chivalry and appreciation for some of the finer things (in contrast with the other groups), but was inherently backwards in a lot of ways.

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[–] QueenMab_II [S] ago 

Southerners have a distinct ethno-cultural identity that you'll never understand nor possess. Despite your desire to malign that, we'll always keep our pride, spiritedness, and ethnic solidarity.

On the other hand, it must suck to be rootless, like you.

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[–] Joe_McCarthy ago  (edited ago)

We just got overrun by European immigrants. The South didn't have to worry about that as much because no one wanted to move there.

That has changed a lot in the New South. Its British ethnic population has been diluted somewhat post-WW2 and like the nation in general now is being overrun by Third Worlders.

On a personal level not living back east probably contributed more to me having a more national identity. I wouldn't want a parochial identity feeling obligated to constantly defend lost causes like the, erm, lost cause. Plus my accent isn't as bad as it would be if I were in, say, Boston.