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[–] mamwad 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
All the good southern culture comes from the lower classes. Barbeque, soul food, the blues, New Orleans jazz, folk, etc. The rest is some snooty, rich man's bullshit that most Southerners didn't have a chance in hell to experience. Privileged, hifalutin bullshit created on the backs of slaves, wage laborers, and useful idiots.
[–] Joe_McCarthy 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago (edited ago)
A lot of truth to that. The Southern aristocracy was also primarily responsible for the civil war. The common Southerner was just defending his home and family from what he saw as an invasion.
The Southern upper class didn't even produce much in the way of enduring high culture for us to remember them by either. The gentlemen of South Carolina LARPed as Englishmen copying them, for example. We got some presidents and generals mostly. Some of the generals waged war against the US, killing Americans in a war where more died than any other in our history.
Southerners tell me their food has flavor. A lot of that is due to African influence...
[–] leRoux 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Fair points, Joe. The people who suffered the most were the average Southern farming folk. Cavalier culture had some admirable qualities like chivalry and appreciation for some of the finer things (in contrast with the other groups), but was inherently backwards in a lot of ways.
[–] QueenMab_II [S] ago
Southerners have a distinct ethno-cultural identity that you'll never understand nor possess. Despite your desire to malign that, we'll always keep our pride, spiritedness, and ethnic solidarity.
On the other hand, it must suck to be rootless, like you.
[–] Helmsley 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Say what you will about their snobbery but those hifalutin bullshitters produced some of America's best literature. I live in the South and the rambunctious hillbilly shit, though endearing in its own way, gets so unbelievably tiring.
[–] Joe_McCarthy ago (edited ago)
If by literature we're referring to enduring fiction classics I'm struggling to think of any. Literature classics in the US only really started about forty years before the antebellum South was destroyed. That was the product of Northerners like Irving and Fenimore Cooper.
Southern gentlemen did indeed write literature and paint stuff - but not much that anyone other than enthusiasts are likely to be familiar with today.