Archived Should California secede from the United States? (OccidentalEnclave)
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Archived Should California secede from the United States? (OccidentalEnclave)
submitted ago by Joe_McCarthy
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[–] golgotham 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
"It's California. The place is gorgeous and has a BANKRUPT economy about the size of Russia." Fixed that for you. IMAGINE the economy when their chief source of income - illegal alien subsidies - dried up! They wouldn't last the first month before screaming to be American again.
[–] Joe_McCarthy [S] 3 points 0 points 3 points (+3|-3) ago
I believe California contributes more to the federal treasury than it receives. The illegals, say what you will about them, also help the economy in driving California's agricultural industry. So there are two sides to that dynamic.
[–] immatureusername 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
California is a drain on everything. Why is it the rats are the first to leave a sinking ship?
[–] nimrodthegreat 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
The illegals cost CA government $25 billion a year. Tell me again how this helps?
[–] Cacciaguida 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
California is unfortifiable alone. Try defending the mojave
Where would they get water?
[–] watch_listed 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Yes, and then we should clone Sherman and let him lose in San Diego and tell him not to stop until he hits Oregon.
[–] Joe_McCarthy [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
The next Sherman may be from Dixie too. One of history's great ironies.
But if California secedes I could see a scenario where large numbers of Mexicans get driven out of America as the US military advances.
In short the ideal is to keep California and lose the invaders. There would be no issue without them. California used to be the land of Nixon and Reagan.
[–] Gigan 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
There is no legal or constitutional way for a state to secede from the union. A civil war would be the only option.
[–] Joe_McCarthy [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
In practice they probably won't even make it on the ballot to vote on it. When Alaska secessionists tried it the federal courts barred it from appearing on the ballot. At that point it'd take something wild - perhaps California's state government ignoring federal court rulings in order to proceed on the issue. I don't think Democrats in California are prepared to do that.
[–] Rask-II 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
I like the hypothetical war scenario where the US retakes it and colonists leave, but if let go, losing California would result in the border DOUBLING in size.
[–] 1Icemonkey 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
It can't happen without a change in the constitution requiring a 2/3 state vote. Or something like that. I live in Ca., in the conservative northern half. We just want our state of Jefferson.
[–] immatureusername 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Fuck no, washington will not be joining california. If anything we will become our own country and to hell with the rest of you. Fuck the 9th circut court. Cali can keep that bullshit. People will die if they try to push a washington cali bs. Fuck you california. Leave washington alone. We will cut your electricity and fresh water if you push us.
[–] 1Icemonkey ago
None of our water comes from Washington.
[–] immatureusername 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Well i know your motherfuckin electricity does. Hahaha.
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[–] Joe_McCarthy [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I was thinking along the lines of actually becoming a military threat or a conduit for foreign interests like Cuba was during the Cold War. It could play host to Chinese troops in the future, host missiles, etc., like Cuba did with Russia. For obvious reasons it'd also tend to side with Mexico.