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[–] CervicalStrike [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yes, I do agree that a religious component to this would be beneficial. My ideal scenario would involve some form of European Paganism that venerates forces of nature and our ancestors. I think this would be good both because I am interested in Europeans returning to pre-imported Judeo desert religion times and also because it would make us look more hippy-dippy and harmless to outsiders.

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[–] 9-11 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

paganism

really?

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[–] Joe_McCarthy ago 

Neo-paganism has little utility in the modern world. It's more like a LARP. The pagans I know don't actually believe in the ancient gods. They're akin to followers of the Star Wars religion for all intents and purposes. It's hard to see a community being devoted enough to build something of a new society around it.

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[–] Quaestorr ago 

I find it refreshing that CervicalStrike (what a nickname, lol) doesn't opt to carry on the 'tradition' of wannabe-Hebrews that is often very strong in ethnic-preservationist circles in the U.S.

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[–] Quaestorr ago 

it is only now that I see the Varg Vikernes reference. While I personally have a soft spot for Varg (I even play the incidental Burzum record every once in a while), and think he has got some sensible things to say, I think that in general he is way too extreme/weird to see as some sort of a guide. I suppose it is okay to see him as a personal inspiration, but I would hesitate to regard him as some sort of authority on starting your own community: imho he's way too much a 'drop out' advocate.

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[–] Quaestorr ago 

pre-imported Judeo desert religion

That is indeed how I see the essential Christianity, but let us not forget that it was historically not perceived as such, and that for centuries it was a great inspiration to our ancestors. That, imho, is not to the credits of Christianity, but to the credits of our ancestors*! We've outgrown the religion; I realize that fact comes with its own problems, but pretending we still believe in the Hebrew YHWH is not a real solution. Paganism would require a lot of effort to get it to functioning properly, but I like how you see its relatively immature/weird imago as an advantage!

*(I like to compare European Christianity to a pearl: it is a beautiful gem, yet its essential core is an alien, potentially threatening irritant; the beautiful outer layers are in fact the result of the attacked organism's immune response.)

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[–] 6314955? ago 

What's wrong with something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism

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[–] Quaestorr 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

That seems a creed designed to overcome differences between humans, which isn't really useful if one wants to emphasize one's ethnocultural specifics.