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[–] Apeabel 0 points 56 points (+56|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Zach Stafford is a pretty terrible person.

"Men even take up too much space on public transport when 'manspreading'". Seriously? Maybe this guy doesn't have, you know, a penis but even in a crowded train I have never heard ANYONE, man or woman, complain about not having enough space because I don't like to sit like women do.

"Because we have centuries of war, of pillaging, of violence that show us that manhood was never in crisis, but always was central to this mayhem. So we may need to just rebuild everything with the whole concept of manhood excluded."

Okay, I apologize, he isn't a terrible person. He is just literally insane. So war, pillaging and violence are caused not by religion, nationalism or greed but mainly because of 'manhood'. Okay, yea.

People like this are why feminists think they are never wrong. I'm all for equality, don't get me wrong but these fucking people don't understand where the fight for equality is taking place. There is no 'patriarchy' at work in the west, no 'manhood oppression' and salaries are still mostly the same. Fuck, we even have gender and diversity quotas now. Instead, women are oppressed in places like the middle east and Muslim countries in general where they are mutilated, their rights taken away and where they are forced to abide by rules that men set. That is the patriarchy they are crying about so much.

Really, I try to support feminism and equality but shit like this makes it really damn hard.

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[–] WakkoWarner 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

I don't think feminism requires any support, not anymore at least. Feminism made sense 50 years ago in western countries, today it is just about privileges and male discrimination at best, not equal rights.

Males and females are simply different (with some exceptions). Different physically and mentally, and this is not wrong at all, it is just how nature made us and how we, as a species, are supposed to work. While these differences should not be a reason for discrimination, it is just silly to pretend they aren't there (because they are, and they are not going away anytime soon).

Feminism degenerated over time to become an excuse to discriminate and hate males, so any support you might give them today, in good faith, will go against your own gender and, in turn, the female gender too. In fact, as you noticed, more and more males feel feminism as being discriminatory and unjust for them and more and more injustices mount and add up day by day.

In the long run this will turn against females too because it will start eroding support even for legitimate issues... and some females (even here on Voat) do see this and hate it as much as we (males) hate it.

Feminism is a (good) thing of the past, today it is just the new label they gave to discrimination and hate. We need some good masculism now because we are the ones discriminated today and the ever mounting requests for privileges and special treatments from the feminists needs to stop now. They are our equals, we need to learn to say "no" exactly as we would say to our male peers when their demands get unreasonable and we need to learn to stop treating them as little precious endangered snowflakes. THAT is equality.

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[–] Apeabel 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I guess you're right. We should promote equality instead of feminism. As I said horrible things are still being done to mostly females (and people that disagree with the state/religion) but not in the western world and not in most industrialized nations.

The fact that feminism has devolved into angry feminazis redefining rape, consent and equality in itself or declaring scales as a tool of the infamous patriarchy is truly disgusting.

Luckily, as you noted, most females understand the bullshit 'modern' feminism spews out on a regular basis and recognize and reject the stupid shit that those people want to push on them.

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[–] TheBeesTrees 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Right. Respect does not require sameness. You could say the same thing within the group of men. some are good at lumberjacking, some are good communicators, etc. Of course there are differences between people, but treat everyone with respect regardless of whatever differences exist and all of a sudden shit is ok. Funny how that works.

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[–] Mead 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This isn't equality, this is feminists trying to subjugate men into jar opening spider squishing servants.

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[–] Internet_Refugee 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I agree with you for a large majority of your message, but I think western business is still dominated largly in part by males.

I think it's time to start supporting egalitarianism and not feminism. Or at least the third wave feminist movements.

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[–] gruevy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If men and women are the same, what difference does it make if there are more men than women? If Man = Woman is basically a tautology then it should make no difference. And if there is a difference, why would it be logically incorrect to argue that one is better than the other?

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[–] alalzia 0 points 28 points (+28|-0) ago 

Gender wars are cool when you are 11 , too bad some people never get older than that .

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[–] maaaaa 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago  (edited ago)

So, this pisses me off. Zach is welcome to cut off his own balls. I think I'll keep mine. This gay SJW twit making pronouncements about manhood, what a joke.

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[–] TheBeesTrees 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

He's probably trying to score with a hot intern.

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[–] SillySnoot 2 points 19 points (+21|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Alright lefties, if men are so terrible and commit so many crimes, then what about black vs white crime statistics? are you saying black people are terrible? Checkmate, fuckers.

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[–] Sops 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Blacks are forced to commit crimes because they have been oppressed by white men. (◡‿◡✿)

/s

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[–] SillySnoot 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

And white men are forced to commit crimes because having 'career women' has raised the required family income over what one man can provide alone, so when a wife refuses to be a 'career woman' he can't support the entire family by himself, leading to the wife cheating for money and him committing crime or killing himself. /end

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[–] jewjoints 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Zach stafford looks like hes already done away with his own manhood

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[–] Scotcheggs 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

And women, if left alone in a big group, would begin throwing their feces and probably resort to cannibalism against each other. Guardian is hyper-leftist the same as the BBC and probably owned by people who benefit most by sewing seeds of discontent with a divide and conquer strategy.

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[–] maaaaa 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago 

SJW bullshit is not leftist. Leftists believe in free speech. I'm a leftist and I think this gender judgement crap is insane. SJWism is more like Wahhabi Islam.

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[–] farmer- 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

No, it's extreme left.

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[–] Totenglocke 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I love people who proclaim to support an ideology while knowing nothing about it.

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[–] 123_456 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Zach Stafford is a faggot, who has the writing skills of a retard.

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[–] SayTan 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

That insults tards.

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[–] TheTrigger 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Your comment is damn-near poetic, in comparison.*
*not sarcasm.

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[–] pitenius 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I liked that statistic. Seems to me, we need to outlaw transgenderism... cuz... you know... public safety.

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