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[–] varialus ago  (edited ago)

What about whites enslaving whites? Or rather, what if people faced certain death for some reason and there was so much competition of who might be saved by the masters, who are genetically equivalent, that the would be slaves offered themselves, their possessions, and their descendants up willingly, that they might come under the eternal watchful eye of those who have wherewith to save them. Then would slavery be alright? The master would be all like, well, I don't really agree with slavery in general, but you're very persuasive and you run a hard bargain. Ok, ok, you can be my slave. Come along now. :-)

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[–] 11807487? 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

In the most general terms, something like this happened in the Middle Ages in Europe. However, they weren't slaves they were serfs. They and their descendants were pledged to be attached to the land, not owned by a specific person. There was a whole ceremony where people would renounce their freedom. The biggest holders of serfs were probably monasteries in many cases.

Serfs did have rights and could, for example, inherit. And often their overlords made sure their rights were respected, in part because Christianity created an atmosphere where the rich were expected to look after the poor (a type of eeeevil paternalism). Also because of the Christian take care of your brother thing, if you were rich enough to and didn't, all the other nobles would look at you askance and talk shit behind your back.

No one will talk about different forms of bondage anymore but history classes should really be teaching this stuff in more detail. Once you understand these social strata and forms of labor, everything else about the society starts to make more sense. The only thing they're allowed to say, even at the university undergraduate level, is that African plantation slavery was the worst and most horrifying slavery system ever devised. Which is not even remotely true, the Spartans among other groups treated slaves extremely brutally. But no one can damage the myth.

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[–] i_scream_trucks 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I think they call that Sonderkommando

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[–] varialus ago  (edited ago)

Just looked it up. Not at all what I had in mind, but went back and read my comment and it actually does kinda fit my words, so... uh, good job or something.