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[–] RiverWind 13 points -11 points (+2|-13) ago 

Allow me to play Devil's advocate here. It is becoming quite clear that, for one reason or another, Western societies are turning into police states, and becoming increasingly Totalitarian. Once Totalitarian Police States are established and equip themselves with the tools of societal control afforded by the information age, it will be exceedingly difficult to re-establish any Freedom. At that stage, widespread lawlessness might be our only hope, and those you now condemn are those most likely to confound the authorities. However, until then...

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[–] SynthoidZeta 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Woah, look at those downvoats. People here seem to be content in having this safe-space for venting and may not have thought too deeply about a way to improve the current states of our collective societies. I, too, think that the kind of change that we would like is not going to happen gradually; we'd have to hit the bedrock, Weimar Republic levels of failure, before someone, an alarm, would be able to raise all of us from our slumbers. An analogy would be a swimmer descending deeper underwater only able to rise up after taking a push from the bottom of the pool. If someone else can allow our societies to get to a state where we can make that jump, all the better.

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[–] bonqueesha 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think it depends on your view of when shtf. venezuela is totalitarian but they armed their supporters on the streets or turned a blind eye to their violence as long as you are loyal and kill for me. It's the opposition that we will control and disarm and oppress. In your case they will allow some lawlessness amongst their clan but not from unconnected non party/democrat/communist members. In your case the letter of the law will be carried out to the t. But the violence from my thugs will be met with a hand slap. I think your scenario reminds me of book 1984. If i were big brother I would use those thugs and throw them a bone to do my bidding.

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[–] Treefart 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I will not allow it, your clearly not capable