Isn’t this all illegal, using race and age for vaccines/medical care?
I swear I hope people are keeping lists and rope factories have added extra shifts.
There’s more in the full article linked at the bottom
Ultimately, the choice comes down to whether preventing death or curbing the spread of the virus and returning to some semblance of normalcy is the highest priority. “If your goal is to maximize the preservation of human life, then you would bias the vaccine toward older Americans,” Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the former Food and Drug Administration commissioner, said recently. “If your goal is to reduce the rate of infection, then you would prioritize essential workers. So it depends what impact you’re trying to achieve.”
I thought the lockdowns, masks, social distancing and not allowing family to visit relatives in nursing homes was all about saving grandma
The trade-off between the two is muddied by the fact that the definition of “essential workers” used by the C.D.C. comprises nearly 70 percent of the American work force, sweeping in not just grocery store clerks and emergency responders, but tugboat operators, exterminators and nuclear energy workers. Some labor economists and public health officials consider the category overbroad and say it should be narrowed to only those who interact in person with the public.
Good thing we build everything in America and don’t need those tugboats and energy just generates itself.
An independent committee of medical experts that advises the C.D.C. on immunization practices will soon vote on whom to recommend for the second phase of vaccination — “Phase 1b.” In a meeting last month, all voting members of the committee indicated support for putting essential workers ahead of people 65 and older and those with high-risk health conditions.
Are you kidding me, i’d like to see their bios, what about the daily death counts plastered on the news everyday. 99.99% of essential workers will live otherwise stores and other businesses would already be shuttered from the massive death count of their employees dealing with hundreds of customers a day.
Historically, the committee relied on scientific evidence to inform its decisions. But now the members are weighing social justice concerns as well, noted Lisa A. Prosser, a professor of health policy and decision sciences at the University of Michigan.
Here we go!! We’re not getting socialized medicine, we’re getting social justice medicine. What could possibly go wrong.
“To me the issue of ethics is very significant, very important for this country,” Dr. Peter Szilagyi, a committee member and a pediatrics professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, said at the time, “and clearly favors the essential worker group because of the high proportion of minority, low-income and low-education workers among essential workers.”
I thought medicine and this pandemic was about saving lives not about giving minorities and poor people special privileges.
That position runs counter to frameworks proposed by the World Health Organization, the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine, and many countries, which say that reducing deaths should be the unequivocal priority and that older and sicker people should thus go before the workers, a view shared by many in public health and medicine.
When even the commie WHO and socialist countries disagree you know something is wrong.
Once the committee votes, Dr. Redfield will decide whether to accept its recommendations as the official guidance of the agency. Only rarely does a C.D.C. director reject a recommendation from the committee, whose 14 members are selected by the Health and Human Services secretary, serve four-and-a-half-year terms and have never confronted a task as high in profile as this one.
But ultimately, the decision will be up to governors and state and local health officials. They are not required to follow C.D.C. guidelines, though historically they have done so.
At this early point, many state plans put at least some people who are older and live independently, or people who have medical conditions, ahead of most essential workers, though that could change after the C.D.C. committee makes a formal recommendation on the next phase.
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One occupation whose priority is being hotly debated is teaching. The C.D.C. includes educators as essential workers. But not everyone agrees with that designation.
“Teachers have middle-class salaries, are very often white, and they have college degrees,” he said. “Of course they should be treated better, but they are not among the most mistreated of workers.”
Teachers thrown under the bus after pushing all that propaganda on kids, maybe they’ll stop being such pathetic social justice advocates when they realize they’re disposable because they’re not “mistreated workers” lmao.
Marc Lipsitch, an infectious-disease epidemiologist at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, argued that teachers should not be included as essential workers, if a central goal of the committee is to reduce health inequities.
WTF, it’s about saving lives, not niggers. and what dies “health inequities” have to do with income? Wasn’t the whole point of Obamacare to give everyone “health equity”
Some health policy experts said that to prioritize preventing deaths rather than reducing virus transmission was simply a pragmatic choice, because there won’t be enough vaccine initially available to make a meaningful dent in contagion. A more effective use of limited quantities, they say, is to save the lives of the most frail.
Some common sense but it gets worse.
Harald Schmidt, an expert in ethics and health policy at the University of Pennsylvania, said that it is reasonable to put essential workers ahead of older adults, given their risks, and that they are disproportionately minorities. “Older populations are whiter, ” Dr. Schmidt said. “Society is structured in a way that enables them to live longer. Instead of giving additional health benefits to those who already had more of them, we can start to level the playing field a bit.”
Didn’t they complain that jews didn’t get healthcare in Germany but now it’s ok for whites to be denied. The term “useless eater” is just being disguised to kill off the old white people in the name of “equity” not “equality” their new favorite term.
He called on the C.D.C. committee to also integrate the agency’s own “social vulnerability index.”
The index includes 15 measures derived from the census, such as overcrowded housing, lack of vehicle access and poverty, to determine how urgently a community needs health support, with the goal of reducing inequities.
Yes the holocough is about medical reparations not saving lives. Maybe give it to the most vulnerable based on a doctors recommendation instead of a fifteen step social justice checklist.
In a new analysis of the states’ preliminary vaccine plans, Dr. Schmidt found that at least 18 states intended to apply the index. Tennessee, for one, has indicated that it will reserve some of its early allotments for disadvantaged communities.
Even Tennessee is going half retard.
Still, some people believe it is wrong to give racial and socioeconomic equity more weight than who is most likely to die.
I would hope it’s a lot more then just “some people”. I also believe It’s illegal.
Even some people whose allegiance lies with one group have made the case that others should have an earlier claim on the vaccine. Marc Perrone, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, which represents 1.3 million grocery and food processing workers, said that despite the high rate of infection among his members, he thought that older adults should go first.
“Here’s the thing: Everybody’s got a grandmother or grandfather,” Mr. Perrone said. “And I do believe almost everybody in this country would want to protect them, or their aging parents.”
Another normal person with common sense and still believes the “pandemic” should be about stopping deaths.
**But Dr. Nirav Shah, Maine’s top public health official, said he respectfully disagreed, repeating the explanation he had given his in-laws — who are older but in good health and able to socially distance.
What about the older ones that aren’t as healthy and don’t have the income for home delivery and have been isolated for almost a year?
He said: “I’ve told them: ‘You know what? I’m sorry, but there are others that I need to get this vaccine to first, so that when you guys get vaccinated, the world you come back into is ready to receive you.’”
If you give the old and vulnerable the vaccine first we could get back to normal right away and “the world could receive them” instead of waiting for 250 million other healthy people to get a vaccine first that don’t need it before old people who’ve been locked in their houses for months and can finally go out and businesses can reopen and the lockdowns can end.
One uncertainty: given the high rates of apprehension swirling around this vaccine, how many people in the early groups will actually line up for it?
I hope not many and the old and vulnerable are get it first.
“If a high proportion of essential workers decline to get the vaccine, states will have to quickly move onto the next group anyway,” said Dr. Prosser, the University of Michigan health analyst. “Because once the vaccines arrive, they will have to be used in a certain amount of time before they degrade."
I’m sure they’ll let it expire before giving it to old/vulnerable white people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-vaccine-first.html?0p19G=6214
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Yeah I had a false positive before surgery which ended up being delayed, then got two more the same day within hours and both were negative but I had to wait a week for the results.
I agree it’s fake and everything you’re saying but people in nursing homes and retirement communities that are healthy and have had it and survived or didn’t get it are being confined to their rooms like they’re in solitary confinement which is taking a toll on their mental health. Look at the story of the lady in Canada who was euthanized so she wouldn’t be locked in her room any longer.
I know it’s all fake. My cousin is the lead/main or whatever RN that works in a nursing home in a small town, everyone there knows each other and we have 2 relatives living there.
A resident got sick about two months ago, the whole staff got tested roughly 3/4 were “infected” and had to leave and not allowed back in until the outbreak was contained. My cousin worked with a skeleton crew during the month long outbreak(they all got it to but mildly). She got “locked in” with the other non-positive staff until everyone tested negative for two weeks(a little over 6 weeks away from home in total).
Out of 57 residents, 13 died and they were already on deaths door. The rest got sick but never got oxygen or anything else. Our 90yo and 93yo relatives came out just fine along with many others who are still healthy but elderly.
But they’re still confined to their rooms a month later like prisoners and the town is getting real upset along with the patients(all their loved ones live in town) but the state is forcing it or the nursing home loses Medicare funding.
And did you see the John Hopkins report that stated the same, an initial spike of heart disease deaths then lower then normal along with all other comorbidities and everything labeled as Covid and the 300,000+ deaths evened out by September and the yearly death rate was normal?
They yanked and retracted the paper, said the co-authors didn’t understand statistics or some bullshit and said the authors agreed the study was flawed. Why? Because “right wing Covid deniers” were using the study to debunk Covid.
Then the main author came out and said the report was accurate, they did understand what they were doing and then she started receiving death threats.
It’s all a big hoax.
Here’s a copy of the report with “retracted” watermarked across each page.
The link is a banned domain here, it’s just a google drive document though. the link is five paragraphs down in this article.
https://opentheword.org/2020/11/29/why-was-johns-hopkins-covid-report-retracted/
The link below at the very bottom of the article links to other stories of “Covid” deaths from accidents or overdoses.
https://opentheword.org/2020/11/29/why-was-johns-hopkins-covid-report-retracted/
In Oregon you’re considered a Covid death up to 2 months after a positive test. Which the Oregon health official pointed out, if you’re in a car or motorcycle accident and tested positive 4 weeks before how do they know you weren’t still slightly sick, tired or dizzy from covid and that led to the accident.
Clown World!!