Isn’t this all illegal, using race and age for vaccines/medical care?
I swear I hope people are keeping lists and rope factories have added extra shifts.
There’s more in the full article linked at the bottom
Ultimately, the choice comes down to whether preventing death or curbing the spread of the virus and returning to some semblance of normalcy is the highest priority. “If your goal is to maximize the preservation of human life, then you would bias the vaccine toward older Americans,” Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the former Food and Drug Administration commissioner, said recently. “If your goal is to reduce the rate of infection, then you would prioritize essential workers. So it depends what impact you’re trying to achieve.”
I thought the lockdowns, masks, social distancing and not allowing family to visit relatives in nursing homes was all about saving grandma
The trade-off between the two is muddied by the fact that the definition of “essential workers” used by the C.D.C. comprises nearly 70 percent of the American work force, sweeping in not just grocery store clerks and emergency responders, but tugboat operators, exterminators and nuclear energy workers. Some labor economists and public health officials consider the category overbroad and say it should be narrowed to only those who interact in person with the public.
Good thing we build everything in America and don’t need those tugboats and energy just generates itself.
An independent committee of medical experts that advises the C.D.C. on immunization practices will soon vote on whom to recommend for the second phase of vaccination — “Phase 1b.” In a meeting last month, all voting members of the committee indicated support for putting essential workers ahead of people 65 and older and those with high-risk health conditions.
Are you kidding me, i’d like to see their bios, what about the daily death counts plastered on the news everyday. 99.99% of essential workers will live otherwise stores and other businesses would already be shuttered from the massive death count of their employees dealing with hundreds of customers a day.
Historically, the committee relied on scientific evidence to inform its decisions. But now the members are weighing social justice concerns as well, noted Lisa A. Prosser, a professor of health policy and decision sciences at the University of Michigan.
Here we go!! We’re not getting socialized medicine, we’re getting social justice medicine. What could possibly go wrong.
“To me the issue of ethics is very significant, very important for this country,” Dr. Peter Szilagyi, a committee member and a pediatrics professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, said at the time, “and clearly favors the essential worker group because of the high proportion of minority, low-income and low-education workers among essential workers.”
I thought medicine and this pandemic was about saving lives not about giving minorities and poor people special privileges.
That position runs counter to frameworks proposed by the World Health Organization, the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine, and many countries, which say that reducing deaths should be the unequivocal priority and that older and sicker people should thus go before the workers, a view shared by many in public health and medicine.
When even the commie WHO and socialist countries disagree you know something is wrong.
Once the committee votes, Dr. Redfield will decide whether to accept its recommendations as the official guidance of the agency. Only rarely does a C.D.C. director reject a recommendation from the committee, whose 14 members are selected by the Health and Human Services secretary, serve four-and-a-half-year terms and have never confronted a task as high in profile as this one.
But ultimately, the decision will be up to governors and state and local health officials. They are not required to follow C.D.C. guidelines, though historically they have done so.
At this early point, many state plans put at least some people who are older and live independently, or people who have medical conditions, ahead of most essential workers, though that could change after the C.D.C. committee makes a formal recommendation on the next phase.
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One occupation whose priority is being hotly debated is teaching. The C.D.C. includes educators as essential workers. But not everyone agrees with that designation.
“Teachers have middle-class salaries, are very often white, and they have college degrees,” he said. “Of course they should be treated better, but they are not among the most mistreated of workers.”
Teachers thrown under the bus after pushing all that propaganda on kids, maybe they’ll stop being such pathetic social justice advocates when they realize they’re disposable because they’re not “mistreated workers” lmao.
Marc Lipsitch, an infectious-disease epidemiologist at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, argued that teachers should not be included as essential workers, if a central goal of the committee is to reduce health inequities.
WTF, it’s about saving lives, not niggers. and what dies “health inequities” have to do with income? Wasn’t the whole point of Obamacare to give everyone “health equity”
Some health policy experts said that to prioritize preventing deaths rather than reducing virus transmission was simply a pragmatic choice, because there won’t be enough vaccine initially available to make a meaningful dent in contagion. A more effective use of limited quantities, they say, is to save the lives of the most frail.
Some common sense but it gets worse.
Harald Schmidt, an expert in ethics and health policy at the University of Pennsylvania, said that it is reasonable to put essential workers ahead of older adults, given their risks, and that they are disproportionately minorities. “Older populations are whiter, ” Dr. Schmidt said. “Society is structured in a way that enables them to live longer. Instead of giving additional health benefits to those who already had more of them, we can start to level the playing field a bit.”
Didn’t they complain that jews didn’t get healthcare in Germany but now it’s ok for whites to be denied. The term “useless eater” is just being disguised to kill off the old white people in the name of “equity” not “equality” their new favorite term.
He called on the C.D.C. committee to also integrate the agency’s own “social vulnerability index.”
The index includes 15 measures derived from the census, such as overcrowded housing, lack of vehicle access and poverty, to determine how urgently a community needs health support, with the goal of reducing inequities.
Yes the holocough is about medical reparations not saving lives. Maybe give it to the most vulnerable based on a doctors recommendation instead of a fifteen step social justice checklist.
In a new analysis of the states’ preliminary vaccine plans, Dr. Schmidt found that at least 18 states intended to apply the index. Tennessee, for one, has indicated that it will reserve some of its early allotments for disadvantaged communities.
Even Tennessee is going half retard.
Still, some people believe it is wrong to give racial and socioeconomic equity more weight than who is most likely to die.
I would hope it’s a lot more then just “some people”. I also believe It’s illegal.
Even some people whose allegiance lies with one group have made the case that others should have an earlier claim on the vaccine. Marc Perrone, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, which represents 1.3 million grocery and food processing workers, said that despite the high rate of infection among his members, he thought that older adults should go first.
“Here’s the thing: Everybody’s got a grandmother or grandfather,” Mr. Perrone said. “And I do believe almost everybody in this country would want to protect them, or their aging parents.”
Another normal person with common sense and still believes the “pandemic” should be about stopping deaths.
**But Dr. Nirav Shah, Maine’s top public health official, said he respectfully disagreed, repeating the explanation he had given his in-laws — who are older but in good health and able to socially distance.
What about the older ones that aren’t as healthy and don’t have the income for home delivery and have been isolated for almost a year?
He said: “I’ve told them: ‘You know what? I’m sorry, but there are others that I need to get this vaccine to first, so that when you guys get vaccinated, the world you come back into is ready to receive you.’”
If you give the old and vulnerable the vaccine first we could get back to normal right away and “the world could receive them” instead of waiting for 250 million other healthy people to get a vaccine first that don’t need it before old people who’ve been locked in their houses for months and can finally go out and businesses can reopen and the lockdowns can end.
One uncertainty: given the high rates of apprehension swirling around this vaccine, how many people in the early groups will actually line up for it?
I hope not many and the old and vulnerable are get it first.
“If a high proportion of essential workers decline to get the vaccine, states will have to quickly move onto the next group anyway,” said Dr. Prosser, the University of Michigan health analyst. “Because once the vaccines arrive, they will have to be used in a certain amount of time before they degrade."
I’m sure they’ll let it expire before giving it to old/vulnerable white people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-vaccine-first.html?0p19G=6214
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[–] ZeroXVX 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Jokes on them. Minorities have historically been used as guinea pigs to test new medication. The ones calling for this are too stupid to realize that the media is using race to trick them into going first. They're like Daffy duck being tricked into asking for duck season.
[–] Dancing_Queen [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
haha I was thinking the same thing with the Tuskegee experiment and other ones.
The white soldiers who had to stand around during nuclear blasts and then patrol through them after had it worse in the long run though.
As I said in my other reply I’m not getting one, I just feel sorry for the elderly in nursing homes and retirement communities.
In some of them they’ve been confined to their rooms for months, can’t go to the Rec room, cafeteria, other people’s rooms etc. They’re getting depressed.
If you want to see double think and their “science”, Cornell made their students sign a “behavioral compact” which mandates all white students on campus and those still distance learning to get flu shots and COVID shots(when available) unless religious/medical reasons/doctors note and duration until you can get one(I would think HIPPA would apply and religious freedom but they have to explain why it’s against their religion, if they’ve received other vaccines and why this is different)
Minorities can opt out by just claiming to be a minority because of the reasons you mention:
What law enforcement and criminals have to due with getting a vaccine is beyond me, this social justice double think has went off the rails and I can’t even keep up with all the conflicting propaganda.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/cornell-vaccine-mandate-only-applies-to-white-students/
[–] UncleDoug 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I'll use my white privilege, stand by and make sure every Jew, nigger, and faggot gets vaccinated with this shot before me.
[–] Dancing_Queen [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
That’s the spirit, leftists will go first also.
[–] i_scream_trucks 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
im 1,000,000% fine with minorities getting vaccinated for covid before me.
you come at me with a covid vaxx needle the last thing you will ever see will be that needle being forced through your own skull.
not kidding.
ill fucking kill you.
[–] Dancing_Queen [S] ago
I’m not getting one either, I’ll eventually catch the cold and be immune. I already had a coronavirus for sure when I was a teenager, lost my taste and everything for about 3 weeks but had very mild symptoms. I’m sure we’ve all had at least one of the four “non-deadly” ones that kill old people every year.
Before COVID they would test negative for the flu, it could’ve been a cold or corona virus and nobody cared, they got pneumonia, system failure and died. Bad cold and flu season, life moved on.
See my nursing home/retirement home replies to others though, those are the people being hurt by this.
[–] i_scream_trucks 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
people get colds all the time. its a nothingburger.
even the dude that invented the pcr test theyre using to detect this 'covid' says its absolutely fucking useless for it.
every time someone on tv or whatever has 'the flu' theyre like laid up in bed for days throwing up everywhere im like if that is the flu, ive literally never had it in my entire life. i cough sneeze choke for a day, then sweat like fuck in bed for a night and sleep like a log and im usually fine afterwards, that i always thought was 'the flu' but either way, its fucking nothing and a part of being a biological entity.
people arent being hurt by 'covid' theyre dying at no greater rate than they were before, that all bares out in all of the statistics and for every 'i have a friend who works in ICU who says' (and this would be the 4th this week) ill show you a string of out of work nurses that are being laid off who all say 'bullshit' (people like me are retraining them into other jobs, theyre all being replaced by the same niggers and retards they put in nursing homes who do what theyre told and overdose patients, then get deported overseas when someone cancels their work contract) and the best part of these 'i have a friend...' stories is they didnt get this shit from anyone that has ever been near an icu at all because they talk utter fucking garbage that would get you failed out of any medical school - hurrrrrrrrr da docta where da mask 4 all day - no, the fucking doctor does not wear the mask all day, a medical person wears a surgical mask (which does not stop viruses in either direciton, its not for that) and throws it out when theyve finished with that one patient, then they put another one on when they deal with someone else. Thats MEDICAL HYGIENE 101 SON and then there is the other facet of that that THEY ARE NOT WEARING THEM ALL DAY BECAUSE OF COOF EITHER those clowns you see in scrubs do the same thing the politicians and journalists keep getting caught doing, putting them on before the cameras get turned on, telling everyone else what to do, then taking them off when they think the cameras are off them. Those idiots you see dancing around on tv in scrubs? Theyre either very off duty or very not medical staff, but what they arent doing, is being run off their feet stressed out and freaking because of all the people dying in their hospitals. If that was happening, they would be yelling at journalists to get the fuck out of their face not dancing around making music video fluff pieces every 2 days. Thats entertainment - if you cant work that out theres something wrong there.
Medical staff do not believe in this shit. Genuine medical staff getting on TV talking shit about this being real are either a) being threatened with their jobs or b) threatening other peoples jobs.
There is no pandemic by statistics or science
People die all the fucking time. People die from complications from chronic diseases and all sorts of shit, its called co-morbidity - end result of HAES is that fat cunts are now dying at a massive rate from heart disease.... they could be half dead for months, get the flu, bang, co morbidity, death. The oldies? THEY FUCKING DIE LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME. LIKE BOTH MY GRANDMOTHERS Fuck go get a pavement ape buddy to smack you around a bit, beat you around the head a few times, not hard enough to break bones but enough for you to start seeing double and get a bit of blood from the ears.... you go into sneezing fits, youre gonna fucking blow out any aneurisms youve got in your brain from that beating - fucking comorbidity, you didnt die from the beating, you died from the sneezing which made the shit you got from the beating killer. Now replace 'beating' with - being a fat cunt, having an auto immune disorder, having chronic cardio-vascular issues, being old and decrepit, being a cancer survivor, and 'sneezing' with 'the flu' or 'a bad cold' and you have 'coronavirus deaths' - and remember the following - hospitals get extra money for 'clean ups' for coronavirus cha ching people are being paid to teach coroners to write up deaths as 'coronavirus' cha ching cha ching and people who die of completely unrelated causes like being hit by fucking buses or being wiped off their motorcycles have had their deaths go down as 'coronavirus' (theres a good portion of your inflated numbers and panic mongering)
The people getting hurt by this are the suicides and the chilld and mental abuse, the unlawful detention, and the forcing of people to breath bacteria for hours on end and giving them chest infections which are then labelled as.... dun dun duuuuuuuuuuuun COVID
So yeah, clear enough?
[–] elfboi 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
Killing someone with a needle. So badass.
Listen fatty, they'll just make you do a lap and you'll collapse because you're an obese fat fucker. Then they'll vaccinate you like the dog you are, fat boy.
[–] Battlefat 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
The answer is simple — don’t take it and you’ll be right as rain
[–] Dancing_Queen [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Yeah I don’t plan on it but for the old people stuck in nursing homes it’s their only chance to get visitors again.
In some nursing homes they’ve been confined to their rooms for months, can’t go to the Rec room, cafeteria, other people’s rooms etc. They’re getting depressed.
[–] i_scream_trucks ago
no, they have another chance.
people actually doing something about it.
thats not happening.
[–] bootstraps 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I had heard that they drug companies had skipped the regular animal testing phase of development. If they want to try it out first on niggers instead of monkeys, that's fine with me. I'm just not sure how to get niggers herded into one spot for vaccinations within a reasonable time. There's no way niggers can show up for appointments on time.
Might as well throw some queers with AIDS into the mix too just to really test it.
[–] Dancing_Queen [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
You’re not thinking outside the box. A free Popeyes chicken sandwich with your vaccine. Niggers have already shot each other over the chicken sandwich.
Hopefully the police stay away otherwise 3/4 of them will be arrested on outstanding warrants.