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[–] ilikeskittles 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I'm not leaving without a fight.

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[–] VogaLodamee [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Dude its fucked, when there's open immigration, the voters who've made things shit go and vote for the same thing in the places they've immigrated to.

You could just close your borders to stop immigration, but immigration does have some positive benefits. The solution is that you have to restrict voting rights to property owners/land owners, and net tax payers, and make damn sure that such policy wont change. Without welfare these immigrants don't come, and when you restrict voting rights, it's guaranteed that it won't become another fucking welfare state.

America used to be a place where instead of the government being a crook who just took your money at gunpoint and did with it whatever the ignorant masses wanted, it was a place where the government would take the money of the taxpayers IF the taxpayers permitted it (you used to not have to pay taxes on things that you didn't use.) And then did with that money what the tax payers wanted to do with it. Troubles came up when voting rights were given to people without property and women, (who are naturally leftists, thats a fact, leftists by definition are people too week to fend for themselves and use political power to steal the resources of those that can)

Now yes there are women who are worth a shit and provide for themselves, but I'd rather that those women with their fantastic genes would become housewives, because women are the limiting factor of reproduction, and those smart women would create more smart tax payers in the future.

An example of not paying taxes on things you didn't use is, if your mortgage was payed off, and the government no longer owns that property, you no longer pay property taxes on that property. If you could somehow prove that you never use the roads, you wouldn't have to pay whatever taxes that go to paying for them. The only thing where it really isn't possible to opt out is with the military, since simply being in america means that you use the military, since without the military foreign powers would take over, everyone is considered to use the military and thus everyone pays for it.

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[–] ilikeskittles 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I agree. Have you ever read Robert Heinlein's book Starship Troopers? I would go with a voting system more like that. IE: Voting rights have to be earned.

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[–] ilikeskittles 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Oh and Russia is too COLD!

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[–] con77 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

keep your powder dry