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[–] Crensch 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The problem in it is what you'll see when you look at Japan and Otaku culture. Some are becoming detached from the reality of it.

You're going to have to provide more context on this. So far, I've seen a culture of disillusioned workhorse men that are tired of working their fingers to the bone as company-men so their women can live like welfare queens. These men did a simple cost-benefit analysis on women and decided to drop five figures on a non-living thing that looks like a woman.

Actually you know... fuck it. Bring it on. Let the fat fucks, r9k autists, and socially broken live in their basements fucking robots.

More or less my take, except that it's still the smart move for even well-adjusted men, IMO.

They aren't helping anything anyway.

Another facet of men's rejection of women, IMO. Why do more than you have to for a system that is pretty much in existence to fuck you out of money you work hard for in order to pay for some bitch with 8 kids and no job?

I posit that doing more is only really admirable when your money is under-the-table, or you make enough with little enough effort that the taxes you pay that the government uses on bullshit won't bother you.

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[–] barset 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

The Otaku nonsense is basically guys too obsessed with anime they try to carry on relationships with pillows themed in their favorite anime waifu. Try to marry robots and in general seem to reject societal norms. Different end of the spectrum from 3rd wave feminism.

Edit: I'm all for rejecting societal norms in the right context but when it starts to separate yourself from society to where you're not really contributing anything I think it could be a downside.

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[–] Crensch 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The Otaku nonsense is basically guys too obsessed with anime they try to carry on relationships with pillows themed in their favorite anime waifu. Try to marry robots and in general seem to reject societal norms.

I'm of the opinion that a rejection of societal norms is by-and-large a healthy thing, because societal norms are morally backwards, or bankrupt. Marrying a pillow, liking cartoons, and detaching from reality doesn't actually hurt anyone, and more importantly, cannot hurt the man doing these things.

Different end of the spectrum from 3rd wave feminism.

I reject this comparison. 3rd wave feminism is all about giving everything to women, including the choice to ruin a man's life at a whim, take his money and things just because they have a vagina, and changing the laws to benefit women and hurt men. None of these things even remotely resemble what's happening in Japan with men.

Men are doing the only logical thing and removing themselves from the situation. They're not trying to fight against women, as doing so could ruin their lives. They're not attempting to get legislation passed that doesn't benefit women, because doing so could ruin their lives. They're not fighting for their own rights, because doing so could ruin their lives.

They're taking their ball, and going home.

I'm all for rejecting societal norms in the right context but when it starts to separate yourself from society to where you're not really contributing anything I think it could be a downside.

As opposed to contributing to a society that is currently geared towards screwing men as much as possible? One that has no possibility of the pendulum swinging back the other way, and giving men a reason to be with women, or contribute? Why put yourself in that position when other options exist?

Men's rights are being taken away at an alarming rate in most places, and there's no reason whatsoever to kowtow to society's shaming you into contributing to such a shit-stacked-against-you life.