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[–] 16696701? [S] 1 point 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

I'm not gonna sit here and say you're wrong, you're not. But what you didn't mention is this is why monogamous marriage is so important. It gives most everyone the opportunity to mate and have a family.

I don't think MGTOW or promiscuity is the answer nor do those things help civilization. What needs to happen imo is a return to a traditional patriarchy and the return of some coverture laws.

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[–] BlackSheepBrouhaha 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

why monogamous marriage is so important. It gives most everyone the opportunity to mate and have a family.

I wish I could believe that. I saw 13 marriages fail in my family before I turned 18. I know what divorce does to the mind of a child. It's like being ripped in half.

I'm biased. I've got a skewed Bayesian model of probabilities. Even the marriages that stayed together are miserable.

I've got a girlfriend. She doesn't want kids. She's getting old. I'd love to have kids, but not if the mother can take them away.

MensRights hasn't done anything because nature doesn't care about individual males. My comment is the answer to the question "Why?" It makes more sense than a belief in the moral failing of society. We're transcendent animals and we've got to work with that.

Think of it as going on strike. The only winning move is not to play.

I hope you the best. I hope you have someone who trusts you and you make many babies.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I wish I could believe that. I saw 13 marriages fail in my family before I turned 18. I know what divorce does to the mind of a child. It's like being ripped in half.

That's a problem with laws that incentivise women to divorce, not the institution of marriage.

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[–] Sometimesineedhelp 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I wish I could believe that. I saw 13 marriages fail in my family before I turned 18

What a shit family.

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[–] RacistJew 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

The only answer is to be an alpha or die trying.

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[–] Colonel_Questionmark 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I think the above commenter assumes that we are powerless to come together in order to overcome our base, animal instincts, while I believe 6,000+ years of human civilization proves otherwise.

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[–] Gargilius ago 

...marriage so important

Nope, it guarantees material safety - enforced by the state - to women who can pursue hypergamy as usual (actually much more easily than usual - and without any negative consequences);

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[–] 0fsgivin ago 

Marriage changes absolutely none of that. Like most things about religion it's pure fucking fantasy.

And men are the ones who force marriage in society. Left on their own women choose harems 100% of the time.