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[–] Reddit-Admin 1 points 41 points (+42|-1) ago 

Transparency is important to us

Which is why we shadowban and have no public administration logs.

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[–] johnparish 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Top comment hits it on the head there

Great! Now can you handle a problem that happens more than 218 times a year, and clarify what, exactly, constitutes brigading, and what, exactly, is worth a shadowban?

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[–] Reddit-Admin 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Yeah but for every one user that actually cares or even gives some thought to the issues you're going to have a hundred that think:

honestly most of it is all bullshit that really doesn't affect anyone

Personally I think sites like Reddit, Voat, Slashdot, whatever are all complete driven by the users and I don't want to contribute to a place that doesn't line up to some degree with my 'core values'. Values like freedom of speech, transparency, honesty, etc.

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[–] Shafticle 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Absolutely hits it on the head.

Bitter sweetness is that it may just drive more folks to alternatives like Voat faster.

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[–] IllIll 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

me too! i dont even know why I'm here yet exactly!

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[–] Creamsicle 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

It's like that new casino with Blackjack and Hookers. Only there's no Blackjack or Hookers. Just freedom. Enjoy.

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[–] SilentWalrus 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Me three! Lets start some sort of club or something. It will be called, "I don't know why I'm here but I like it"

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[–] forward4 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

As did I. I'm not really into the whole "reddit is evil" circlejerk, I just like the features that this site gives me versus Reddit (like non-terrible CSS, night-mode, and better inline commenting tools without an extension, oh and avatars and bios to give you an identity, etc)

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[–] rwbj 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm going to assume you're talking about legitimate harassment and not "disagreeing with me or showing how my view is incorrect is harassment." In this case, trolls feed off of reactions. Banning them and responding to them validate their trolling. They realize they're getting to people. Simply ignore the troll and they starve for lack of attention. This is the reason Twitter actively showing who's blocking you is arguably the dumbest thing they could have ever done if they actually care about stopping harassment and trolling. When somebody blocks you or bans you and then it informs the troll of as much, it shows the troll they've read what they've written and it got to them.

And banning is obviously a case of a never-ending game of wack-a-mole. It's trivial to change your IP and identifying user-agent information.

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[–] novictim 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

This is a classic tactic of using phony complaints not founded on principles to forward censorship.

Reddit is irrelevant now.

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[–] Taka 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I just love the fact that absolutely nobody is buying any of their bullshit.

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[–] RustyNails 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Someone linked Voat in this article and now I'm here! Haha

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[–] novictim 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I can see the sweat beads tracking down Pao's forehead.

Here is my post there:

""[–]novictim 1 point 2 minutes ago

Transparency?

How about explaining your ever expanding use of censorship and banning with no justifications?

How about demanding Mods must justify their censorship and banning and that censorship criteria based on the opinion of mods be stopped?

How about having a tolerance policy for supposed "offensive" and "unpopular" speech?

Reddit, you are already on the glide slope to irrelevance because of your censorship based on bias and political correctness"

BTW: I am now moved to VOAT.CO Join me there and breath the fresh air of freedom.

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[–] maxoverdrive 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I saw this, went and posted a comment, found out that the comment doesn't appear on the thread at all. Posted the same thing under a different (also new) account, also couldn't see it. I can see the accounts, the context, etc. but if I log out and take a look the comment under either account the comment disappears even though neither account is listed as being shadowbanned. Made a third account, set it to view all comments no matter what, and neither one shows up.

I've was highly critical of the reddit admins prior to jumping ship for Voat and it appears they took exception by shadowbanning my ip address. So much for transparency, eh?

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[–] novictim 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It is so pathetic and petty that this company, Reddit, has so little faith in its own product as to not allow criticism.

Well, they confirm again to everyone that Reddit is not a place for discussing the news.

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[–] novictim 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

They would need to scrap their plan of "Huffpo-ization", the impulse to control the dialogue on various issues and steer conversations according to the bias of Reddit or those that are paying for a particular spin.

But SomeScientologist, that is their new business model at Reddit. So they will never do what you suggested and they certainly will not embrace freedom of expression and opinion.

This is all about the corporate schemes for profit that rely on selling the leverage in this news site to mold and control opinion.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I read the post and linked items, and I thought it was fine. Those changes look positive, to me. Then I realized that they're addressing something that happens 218 times a year and patting themselves on the back, as if it's a huge step forward in transparency. Is it good? Sure, it seems to be better than the alternative, which provided zero information, but there are much larger transparency-related issues that they are actively ignoring, as evidenced by that comment thread.

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[–] AllYourBase 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Reddit's about as transparent as a brick.

'Secret police' shadow banning people with comments that contradict the Admin-approved opinions, no public moderation logs for individual subeditors, removing any and all posts that shine Ellen Pao in a negative light.

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