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One of the comments on the guardian's site tells a truer story involving Alexis 'Stratfor' Ohanian.
I think this misses the big story, which is Alexis Ohanian's brilliant, Machiavellian, and downright evil plot to a) change the rules and culture at reddit and b) throw Ellen Pao under the bus for it so that she would be replaced by his old college mate Steve Huffman. The reddit userbases' predictable misogyny made that job easy.
Virtually everything you mention in your article relates to a decision Alexis made. In particular it was Alexis who horribly mishandled the PR around the changes and it was Alexis who botched the firing of Victoria. But Ellen was made to carry the can for all of it, and the reddit userbase, always more keen to blame a woman with no background in tech than a nerdy man they considered one of their own, weren't keen to look further for a scapegoat.
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Yup. Add to that the lack of transparency regarding the removal of unsavory subs- I didn't care about FPH, and frankly, I didn't at all like FPH- but from the looks of things, FPH got removed because it was making Reddit look bad, not because of its putting anybody in danger or its members otherwise harassing other Redditors.
If FPH could get pulled for this, what happens when other subs- subs perhaps with virtuous goals that are considered unsavory, unmarketable- get in the way of Reddit's PR?
I actually was telling my mom about Ellen Pao, and she agreed with me wholeheartedly, saying she gave women in tech a bad name. Does that mean she has internalized misogyny? I wouldn't think so, since she's a second wave Feminist, albeit, one that adamantly believes in the wage gap, but hey, no one's perfect.
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[–] Apathy 0 points 30 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago
And that ladies and gentlemen is the gell mann effect.
[–] dirk 0 points 19 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago
One of the comments on the guardian's site tells a truer story involving Alexis 'Stratfor' Ohanian.
[–] Jourdy288 0 points 14 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago
Yup. Add to that the lack of transparency regarding the removal of unsavory subs- I didn't care about FPH, and frankly, I didn't at all like FPH- but from the looks of things, FPH got removed because it was making Reddit look bad, not because of its putting anybody in danger or its members otherwise harassing other Redditors.
If FPH could get pulled for this, what happens when other subs- subs perhaps with virtuous goals that are considered unsavory, unmarketable- get in the way of Reddit's PR?
[–] ginganinja 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
I actually was telling my mom about Ellen Pao, and she agreed with me wholeheartedly, saying she gave women in tech a bad name. Does that mean she has internalized misogyny? I wouldn't think so, since she's a second wave Feminist, albeit, one that adamantly believes in the wage gap, but hey, no one's perfect.
[–] hunt_the_fatties 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Man, do you remember when you could criticize a chick without being called a misogynist? I barely do.
[–] BentAxel 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Had to read your explanation as I had no idea what it was. Spot on.