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[–] mwolf 1 points 46 points (+47|-1) ago 

Honestly the same pointless post removal type is happening in /v/programming.

The strict "just because it has a computer doesn't mean it belongs in programming" reasoning behind a lot of the unannounced removals of heavily upvoted posts is indicative of out of touch mods who should probably turn in their modship. They're out of touch with users who clearly want a larger tolerance for posts not relating strictly to code.

The community is for programmers and many seem to like tons of content that doesn't necessarily have any code in it at all, certainly enough to give lots of posts (like the removed github posts) a ton of traction.

The same thing is happening with /v/programming, the mods there have communicated that they are sick of posts relating to github's recent SJW decay since they aren't programming. But the users clearly want to see it even if there isn't an inkling of code anywhere near it. The only difference is that the mods here are actually accountable.

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[–] freedoms 9 points 7 points (+16|-9) ago 

Meh. Making sure discussion is on topic is like the most important job for the mods.

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[–] imkharn 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago  (edited ago)

No. Making sure the topic is not something degrading to the interests of the topics community is the most important job for the mods.

A moderators job is to keep the intended user-base happy not themselves happy, not the topic happy. It is never to overrule the overwhelming interests of the community like you seem to think.

Moderators should be like security at A-Con. Removing the assholes making the event unenjoyable for anime fans is the limit of their power. Running around harassing everyone not talking about anime is not acceptable. Sure if a brigade of westboro shows up causing a scene that the community does not like they might be censored if the average anime fan is ok with such censorship. Moderators work for the community, not the other way around.

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[–] Spip 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

In the case of subs that are quite general and not niche, I'm more in favor of one main sub where almost everything goes and several sister subs.

For example, on reddit you had /r/bitcoin (that was garbage when nothing was happening in the news) and dozens of other subs.

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[–] mwolf 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

On topic... to what though? just because a sub has a rule doesn't mean the userbase wants it. Userbases change as time goes on so rules need to be reexamined periodically.

/v/technology is vague and broad. There is at least some community that thinks that a board called "programming" should be exceedingly board with a name like that should be welcoming to more than just something which contains lines of code, and from the upvotes it seems a lot of the userbase appreciates the content.

Stuff that has nowhere near any code in it gets upvoted all the time because its something thats interesting to programmers and I think defining what is on topic should be left to comments on a post and the votes for the most part. posts about popular libraries/tools get upvoted all the time and mods never seemed to havea problem with them (ex every new gcc release, or a link to the gcc mailing list saying the C++ concepts branch is getting merged into their trunk). That stuff doesn't have any explicit code in it either, and that is always the rule that gets referenced when heavily upvoted content gets removed.

Requiring lines of code in a programming language for a post on /v/programming is a silly rule that mods use in spite of community participation, not in support of on topic discussion.

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[–] mwolf 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You're at least technically right in that I can't go on /v/programming and prove that everyone there is a "programmer."

My assumption is that most people who go to a board called programming and press subscribe or vote on content are at the very least interested in topics surrounding SWE/CS/OSS which are all heavily intertwined with programming.

You seem to be suggesting that some sort of outside manipulation is taking place, which frankly from my point of view is a far fetched accusation. Being involved in SWE/CS, my anecdotal evidence tells me that overwhelming numbers of people who would like a "programming" board would like to see the sort of content that mods have taken contention with recently.

More evidence that "programmers" like the content: when you go to for example the github in action type threads you don't see comments complaining about how the sub has gone to shit or that it breaks the rules. you see discussions about how people are sick of the PC thought police and are going to boycott github/take down their public repos and move to another host/make their friends aware of the issue. You see suggestions for different source control hosts.

I worded my post that way because that's the message. From everything I see programmers do want to see general posts that are only indirectly related to the act of writing code.

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[–] Aradiel 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It sounds like the best solution would be to shift the post to another subverse, rather than to delete it outright. Of course, that might not be currently possible.

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[–] Balrogic 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

That github drama is pointless. We should just host our own repos, that makes it impossible for some fascist to rise up and attack us. Decentralization is essential to ensure liberty. Do I care about what some website I'll never use again wants to do or do I want to learn some more computer science lore, new engineering practices and other useful things? I'm going to prefer the latter.

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[–] mwolf 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Definitely agree about decentralization.

I think the drama has its place every now and then when it's clear a popular service has reached critical mass and deserves to get called out for their bullshit but it certainly shouldn't flood /v/programming 24/7 and I can see how it'd get aggravating.

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[–] RabidRaccoon 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

So basically someone at Oracle who shouldn't have the job she has writes an ill advised blog post and gets dog piled. Oracle talks to reddit and reddit stop linking to her post.

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[–] EatDik 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

her post

her

Ah, that explains everything! /r/programming mods think that any woman doing anything remotely close to programming is a godsend and should never, ever be criticized because something. They removed this submission, but left the one where a 13 year old girl was boasting that she has some crappy videos on her youtube account and that she made a blog on some site.

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[–] MaunaLoona [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yep. That's exactly it.

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[–] deadnagastorage 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Haha it was the CTO. THE FUCKING CTO.

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[–] RabidRaccoon 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah, and she spends her time sending cease and desist letters to customers, despite the fact that she's not a lawyer. Nor, it would seem, a developer. And she's dumb enough to think that blogging about all this is a good career move.

And when it turns out that it wasn't and her inbox fills with angry emails she gets reddit to pull the link. What an absolute cluster fuck. MySQL may suck balls but at least you don't have deal with officious incompetents like her.

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[–] spookybm 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's going to be anot her gloom ish blow on women in stem.....
Orace was written on a Unix platform wasn't it? I thought that was open source...

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[–] Lindeed 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Well, just because she said they can't look into that code it doesn't mean shit, law, especially in EU, is not in her favor, so i really don't know why she posted it - it's very bad PR for the company and they have nothing to support this. They might say "we kindly ask you..." but "fuck off, niggers" isn't best way to talk with community.