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[–] codyave 2 points 21 points (+23|-2) ago 

TL:DR The guy running archive.is is a delusional conspiracy nut

We do not have enough information to believe this claim. Just because something is probable does not make it true.

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[–] nokilli 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago 

Fuck probable, there's no basis for making this kind of slanderous claim whatsoever.

It is far more likely to be an issue that originated from somewhere deep in the Finnish bureaucracy. If you're a website admin, international travel can be extremely problematic, and there's a lot of subtext in the relationship between Finland and Russia that needs to be appreciated too.

I get it that these kinds of bans can be annoying but that's what tor is for.

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[–] jammi [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Just read his twitter feed, if you still have any doubts.

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[–] 721r 1 point 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

Well, the obvious replacement is https://archive.org/web/web.php ("Save Page Now").

It works worse than archive.is with dynamic websites like facebook or twitter though, and obeys robots.txt.

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[–] Admiral_Greyfield 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

The other issue is that archive.org deletes pages on request, so it is useless for archiving stuff that people want deleted or modified (which is a large reason for archiving).

Unfortunately, archive.is is the best option out there despite the owner being fucking nuts.

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[–] jammi [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Archive.is deletes pages on request as well.

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[–] nokilli 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

Guesses about the type of "incident" range from confiscated cigarrettes/alcohol/drugs to no visa, which are the typical cases of custom "incidents".

Or, as is frequently the case with website admins who cross international borders, issues related to ownership of private keys used to authenticate on servers or access to information allowing authorities to identify users who posted various material.

OP, you're the delusional conspiracy nut. Figure out how to install tor and use that shit and stop wasting everyone else's time.

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[–] jammi [S] 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

Or, as is frequently the case with website admins who cross international borders, issues related to ownership of private keys used to authenticate on servers or access to information allowing authorities to identify users who posted various material.

Why would customs care about that, there's also no laws in the country allowing intrusion like that. Authorities have no power nor interest on sites outside their jurisdiction (sites in other countries).

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[–] nokilli 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Customs probably doesn't care but if the dude's name is on the list they're obliged to check. And the authorities have the power to do anything they want, don't kid yourself. All they need is the child porn pretext and the sky is the limit.

Think for a moment about what a site like archive.is is used for... posting information so that less powerful people get to see what more powerful people don't want them to see.

Somebody needs to explain to me why it's ok for you to be doxxing the guy.

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[–] Ohhrubyy 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

Seconded. This sounds like a real personal problem for the country of Finland. Maybe we shouldn't use voat at all because the great firewall of china won't let Chinese people see this website....or those affected can work around it like they already do,

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[–] jammi [S] 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

If Voat blocked Chinese people from accessing Voat, it'd be a similar. Finland isn't blocking Archive.is; Archive.is is blocking Finland because the admin claims he had an "incident" with the customs, and then goes slippery-sloping into unrelated excuses for his blocking action.

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[–] weabot 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

snew.github.io is pretty good

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It still doesn't work for deep comment links, I need to get off my ass and fix it this weekend.

Also it's not an archiver, it's an API client, though it does restore removed comments.

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[–] olicool10 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That's good for Reddit links. We need something else for webpages.

[–] [deleted] 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

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[–] jammi [S] 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Yeah, or you could use Tor browser (and reload, if the exit node happens to be a Finnish IP address). Work-arounds are extra hassle, and I think it'd be better to support some trustworthy site instead. Apologizing archive.is behavior isn't any better than apologizing reddit behavior.

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[–] lawofchaos 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

Yeah besides the fact that this dude sounds like a bit of a nut, we should try to use a website that doesn't exclude or block any country. You could use Tor and proxies and shit but that's just fucking ridiculous and shouldn't even be necessary at all when it comes to a website like this.

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[–] cfl1 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Work-arounds are extra hassle, and I think it'd be better to support some trustworthy site instead.

There isn't one. Your say-so isn't going to make something suddenly appear, either.

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[–] DarthPeaDoughBare 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

So can we gather together and pressure this guy to make the change?

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[–] jerry 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Who gives a fuck just use a different archiver

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[–] DarthPeaDoughBare 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Normally I would agree but that minute amount of support that was given this forum in the way of a voat share button is worth a little bit notice.

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[–] RR5td5 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

but but share button? (:

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[–] MaunaLoona 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

When questioned about it, he first tries to convince people the government of Finland is involved in some conspiracy targeted on himself, because he's obviously such a threat and Important Person and that Finnish authorities blocked his site, which are easily proven false.

How is it easily proven false?

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[–] jammi [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Because customs don't deal with matters like that and the block page isn't even close to the one CP blocks land on, and its block page is hosted in France, which would be a rather silly thing for Finnish authorities to do.

Edit: Additionally, for https://archive.is/ the SSL certificate is valid, which means his blocking page is coming from same site as the regular archive.is content.

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