[–] [deleted] 2 points 100 points (+102|-2) ago 

[Deleted]

0
11

[–] sneakybells 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Without context it looks really bad but that doesn't mean we should censor for the possible racist assumptions they can reach from the post.

0
13

[–] alphagammabeta1548 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

So we should censor things now based on the fact that seeing them might cause people to reach a controversial conclusion that is based on hard numbers and facts?

0
5

[–] Rockatansky 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

And shouldn't it be the job of someone else to provide the context? That's how you learn things is by having your preconceived notions challenged.

0
7

[–] ShowMeThePunny 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

nteresting, I got into a spirited debate on this subject on reddit and all my posts were deleted. I thought it was a mistake but it seems like an ongoing issue.

Specifically the post was a graph on inter/intra racial murders by race, and a person hypothesized that it was sampling bias. He gave a hypothetical example and I ran the statistics and showed that sampling bias even in his cherry picked hypothetical couldn't account for such a large disparity.

I even was carefully to not even mention race, just the statistical validity of his sample. I got 100 upvotes and was top reply before it was deleted by a mod.

SJW in action.

0
0

[–] occasionallymakeart 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Not really. It doesn't meet the criteria of being a religion. It is a lot of bullshit ignorance, but it is not a religion.

1
48

[–] Thatdrumdude 1 points 48 points (+49|-1) ago 

It bothers me so much that people are actually commenting on that saying that high crimes rates by black males is the result of society treating them like shit. That's not a good excuse for the types of crimes that occur, and no where near a good enough excuse for black on black crimes.

I hate even more how saying things like "I'm not racist" but then acknowledging that there is an issue with high rates of black crime, somehow makes you a racist. I'm not a racist, but simply by saying that people are going to assume I am. And that's so fucking stupid.

0
45

[–] Echo_of_Savages 0 points 45 points (+45|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's a cycle of poverty and broken families which create this incentive to join gangs, over time creating the culture which you see now. I highly recommend you read Savage Inequalities by Jonathan Kozol, watch The House I Live In, and then listen to Killer Mike, Murs, and Kendrick Lamar to get a picture for how life in the ghetto really is in this country. These people are born into a shitty situation with close to zero opportunities, and it's very easy to slip into the gang lifestyle in that environment.... it is what it is man

But the good thing is that more influential hip hop artists are coming out and saying that black on black crime is fucked up. Murs has a verse:

They had a rally for police brutality up at the park But when we killing ourselves don’t nobody want to march We got to start to take a look in the mirror If we don’t respect ourselves then they always gone fear us If black lives matter then black lives matter And the color of the killer shouldn’t even be a factor Most of these rappers ain’t equipped to lead Cause most of these rappers illiterate, can't read This is educated street music for the educated street movement It’s fucked up what the police is doing But motherfucker look what we doing

Kendrick Lamar:

So why did I weep when Trayvon Martin was in the street when gang banging make me kill a nigga blacker than me? Hypocrite!

actually check out the lyrics to Kendrick's song

[–] [deleted] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

[Deleted]

0
2

[–] Thatdrumdude 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Don't get me wrong, there is that influence of shit that has been playing in the lifes of black people. It sucks a lot, and the problem I see is the bigger the city the worse off the black community has it. I live in small town, where the black kids here don't actually have all to bad. They have poverty, but everyone in this town except for a few powerhouses has that same poverty. I grew up poor, I'm still poor, I've been homeless twice in life. The shit is not easy to come out of, so I totally understand that aspect of feeling trapped. But I feel like it cannot be blamed for the entire data chart of black on black crime. It's the same reason white people kill white people and rob stores, because people are angry and desperate. But all people have a choice, all people should be raised to understand right and wrong. So when these kids join gangs, they know outright what they are doing is wrong. Unfortunately, they don't really have an understanding of just how bad what they are doing is, and how dangerous it really is.

That in mind, it's only going to get worse for them and all of the poor and middle class as this country futher downgrounds with financial inequality. I do however, totally respect your post. Points very well made with great lyric mentions. Hopefully we can fix this world before it's too late for many people.

0
1

[–] ShowMeThePunny 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Let's not forget geography factors as well.

A mixture of economic action (cycle of poverty, capital and buisness flight to the lower regulated and taxed suberbs) and direct government action (HUD), means high poverty predominantly black populations become highly concentrated in inner city neighborhoods.

These neighborhoods have high costs associated with them. Food costs are inflated do to a relatively small number of buisness servicing a high number of people. These buisness expense high theft, vandalism, insurance rates, city taxes, etc. and pass those costs onto the inner city customer resulting in a huge cost of living. It's incredibly expensive to be poor in these communities. If you do put together a decent life you face a constant barrage of crime, vandalism, theft, and murder that continues to hold you down.

Even people of moderate income buckle under these forces and face dispair. It's no wonder so many of the disenfranchised in these communities turn to things like drugs and crime.

And the cycle continues...

0
6

[–] 123_456 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

It bothers me so much that people are actually commenting on that saying that high crimes rates by black males is the result of society treating them like shit. That's not a good excuse for the types of crimes that occur, and no where near a good enough excuse for black on black crimes.

I hate even more how saying things like "I'm not racist" but then acknowledging that there is an issue with high rates of black crime, somehow makes you a racist. I'm not a racist, but simply by saying that people are going to assume I am. And that's so fucking stupid.

Maybe that's true. Maybe (some) black people act shitty because of how they were treated in the past. But you know what, people? It's time to get over that shit, and stop fucking yourselves over. Clean up your act. Everyone goes through some bullshit in their history. There is a point where you let it go, get your shit together, and start contributing like the rest of society. No more of this "whitey is holding me down" fuckery. No one is holding you down, and if they are, rise up.

0
2

[–] atheist101 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Its mostly bad education. A lot of times, the schools in these poor neighborhoods dont treat the students like they are valued so the kids start to rebel at an early age, skipping school, not studying and then getting sucked into gang-like behavior because its seen as "cool". Then they start making fun and bullying, taunting etc the smart kids who do study and try to better themselves because they hate to see people succeed when they are failing. Plus the parents at home are usually shit, either not there, high on drugs, alcohol or doing some other stupid shit so theres no good basis for the kids growth. Its not easy for a 12 year old to make the right choices when they dont have the maturity to see the future nor the support from their parents, family or schools.

0
2

[–] Thatdrumdude 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Fortunately, I've seen at least an improvement from the mindset of "whitey holding us down." Now there is a lot more anger at general society over just white people. It doesn't help that there are areas that do suppress and ignore poor black families. But I firmly believe that all situations can be improved on without the need of violence, and with a straight conscious mind with the eagerness to improve. Motivation is what they need, and they aren't getting much of it.

Statistics like this are great thing, they should be shared with the black community as an eye opener. As a message of "hey we need to stop this shit and focus on better constructive ways to improve our situation.

The shit of it is, I don't get called a racist by black people, I'm getting called a racist by white people who think that my opinions are racist because they come off as rude. You point out to a white person who is all over that social justice bullshit, and they say that the statistics are false and racist and it's racist to believe it. That's where this shit is getting assaulted. SJWs are poison. They claim to want equality for everyone, but then bash your dick in when you suggest that black on black crime is truly and issue or say that the white man isn't actually holding them down. Don't tell the black people what their problems are because that's racist and your a racist for thinking it's a good idea. Essentially SJWs are saying to keep facts on the down low because it might hurt someones feelings. And that's just bullshit.

0
4

[–] Matterhorny 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The views and comments become racist when the commentor Says blacks are doing those thing Because They are black******. They key is generalization about a group of people Because Their skin is a different color. ****

0
0

[–] maxoverdrive 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Which have nothing whatsoever to do with the facts. The facts are the facts and shouldn't be censored to prevent hurting someone's fee-fees.

Well, in sane places anyway. On reddit, fee-fees (and money) are all that matters.

0
2

[–] atheist101 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You are only racist if you say that black people commit crimes because their skin color is black. Its ok to say black people generally commit more crimes because they are poor, uneducated and undervalued in society and are almost always handed a shit platter at youth.

0
23

[–] Frank_Castle [S] 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

0
12

[–] Yolkex 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Reading that entire thread is worrying. How can the mods be that ignorant?

0
19

[–] diazepam 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

Mods of TIL are known SJWs, this is no surprise. They remove things that don't fit feminist views as well even when the source is solid.

0
7

[–] asilvermtzion 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Wow. Even if the voting stats are correct and that constitutes proof that brigading was occurring, Batty-Koda's attitude is deplorable: Instantly accusing specific subs, and then specific users, and acting like a whiney brat while doing so. Like they never learned that you get what you give.

0
5

[–] go1dfish 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

0
3

[–] jobes 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Wow I knew default sub mods were bad, but holy shit those were awful comments from a mod.

0
12

[–] yawningangel 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

My reddit account had a post that was heading for the top of front-page (posted in til)

The mods scrubbed it because it was "political" and sparked racist comments..

It was a post about Billie Holiday ffs..

0
8

[–] middle_path 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

it was "political" and sparked racist comments..

So you got in trouble for something other people said? Reddit logic.

0
4

[–] Nationalist 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The fact that /r/conspiricy brings up that same stormfront post from four months ago as proof of a "conspircy" makes me think they've gone SJW too. Seriously stormfront isn't 'brigading reddit' in any noticeable fashion.

0
4

[–] 1smartass 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Well there was a lot of folks most certainly going SJW and pulling race cards in that thread. "Bringing up race, why that's race baiting".

So sick of seeing that shit on Reddit.

0
4

[–] well-placed_pun 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It wouldn't look good for advertisers. You can bet your ass the admins are on top of the defaults to keep it "clean."

1
3

[–] explorevoat 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

The AMA is bullshit.

According to the AMA of Reddit wide rules this is protected speech.

That AMA was one long lie done to create a false impression and get members to stay.

0
5

[–] Quawonk 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

There is no protected speech anymore except for SJWs.

0
1

[–] maxoverdrive 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

And there hasn't been for years. If explorevoat thinks the rules are enforced in any equitable fashion we all need to pause for a bit while I point at him and laugh my ass off....

0
0

[–] batcountryharlot 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Does anyone have any idea how many members have left Reddit so far?

1
2

[–] Beers 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

To be fair, and to argue against the consensus here (hey, someone has to...), this is massive bait. He didn't "learn this today," he went looking for something to ruffle panties with and posted it, then cried oppression when the mods obviously shut him down.

It's pretty shit content, posting things like this to stir up anger. It's pretty clear that he didn't just learn it, he just wanted other people to see it to justify his views. I can see why the mods decided it wasn't good content. Then again, it's a little ridiculous to fall for his bait and delete the post.

edit: wait, is he shadowbanned now? https://www.reddit.com/user/Boobsfordinner guess he was actually a spam bot, not a racist after all! robots cant be racist

load more comments ▼ (22 remaining)