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[–] RedditDead2005-2015 0 points 71 points (+71|-0) ago 

Why isn't this at the top of MeanwhileOnReddit? I'm just commenting so I can refer to it later, but someone is pissed off and just threw a grenade in the Reddit high command's offices. :) And he isn't just some disgruntled former employee. But my hate is still on Pao because of the censorship thing which I am positive she was responsible for.

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[–] Sydviciouz 0 points 107 points (+107|-0) ago 

My hate is on almost everyone one at Reddit HQ besides for Yishan.

Alexis Ohanian, u/kn0thing , is just as big of an SJW asshat than Pao. Same with Hoffman, u/spez. And Ohanian thinks he's some god now, since he co-founded this site. He thinks he's the next Zuckerburg, which is fucking hilarious since he fucked up so badly that his website will be a wasteland in a year.

They all make me sick. I'm so done with that their dicky dictating dickness.

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[–] bongosilly 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

That's triple dickness.

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[–] RabidRaccoon 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Well Yishan did famously call out an employee he'd sacked in the sacked person's AMA which most people pointed out was a bad idea if you're a CEO. And then he quit fairly soon after - I like to think he worked out that being CEO of reddit was not very good for his mental health.

All the mods and admins seem to be unhappy, power tripping assholes (e.g. krispycrackers banning someone by mistake and then saying she did it because she was forced to move to SF without her husband), all the users seem to be far too ready to join a witch hunt too (e.g. for the Boston Bomber). If you remember the original justification for the 'safe space' policy was that most redditors would not recommend the site to a friend because of the toxic culture. And anyone who has used reddit knows exactly what they're talking about.

So it's not like changing CEOs is going to make the place usable.

If they ease up on the censorship the witch hunting, doxxing, swatting etc will get worse for users who will leave, unless they're the ones doing it. Also people will start outrageously offensive subreddits, the media will find out about them and banning them will cause drama just like banning FPH did.

If they increase the censorship the admins will be witch hunted, doxxed etc. And loads of people will get banned by accident and will leave.

Stick a fork in it, reddit is done - it'll go the way of Digg.

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[–] whynotanon1 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago  (edited ago)

They had 10 years to build the site into something more and they failed. They moved so slow, the site is hardly better at all since it's inception. Look at facebook, it sucks, and fewer and fewer people are active on the site, and they are failing to reach international markets (both China and Korea have much more successful alternatives), but you can use your facebook account to log into almost any site on the web. This gives facebook a giant data mine to excavate, and data is money, and it enables them to be the login keys for online accounts (in the US). A very powerful position.

edited for clarity

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[–] RedditDead2005-2015 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

That weasel sold out to Conde Nast in 2006, long before Reddit became successful. Co-founder is about the only title he can rightfully say is his. Chairman? Just a figurehead that fucked things up when he started touching Reddit again.

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[–] gringo 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

Well, I gave my upvoat. I think this is much more important than all of this Chairman Pao hate going on. So /r/conspiracy (etc.) was right all along, that she was just a scapegoat for the real chairman. However, it's strange that /r/conspiracy hasn't picked up on Yishan's comments yet... probably some censoring going on. At least /r/blackout2015 is focussing on it.

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

My former colleagues at /r/conspiracy have really been a letdown in the redditrevolt TBH.

I keep trying to tell them to take their balls out of their purse and do something.

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[–] 913366? 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Man, this is some Maury-level trashy shit slinging in an extremely public place and at a very vulnerable time for Reddit. I'm relishing it because I'm a plebeian who has come to hate what Reddit's become, but Yishan should be more concerned career and reputation before airing such dirty laundry.

I get that he wanted Ellen to succeed, but deriding kn0thing on Reddit isn't the way to promote his pro-Ellen narrative - talking directly to the tech media is. They're hungry for some pro-Ellen, anti-naysayers spin as it is and they've been running with the stupid sexism angle, when really Reddit's leadership is just incompetent all around.

The NYT writer who covered the founding of Twitter should start his next book on the fall of Reddit.

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[–] ssldvr 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Everything about this is being handled so unprofessionally and immaturely. I can't believe these people are in charge of anything.

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Yishan is and will forever be my favorite non-developer admin.

Even though he made one of the worst decisions in reddit history (on-site rule)

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[–] KinkRaven 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

I have the feelz that yishan was forced out and is enjoying his popcorn right now :)

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[–] r0x_mah_s0x 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I read somewhere that it wasn't Yishan that made the rule that everyone must work on the job site, but that it came from Sam Altman.

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[–] anamorphic 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

He seems like he takes no shit from anyone

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[–] acratus 0 points 44 points (+44|-0) ago  (edited ago)

That isn't even his most shocking comment of the past day:

Edit: Archive link https://archive.is/hRvIM

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[–] Le_Squish 0 points 40 points (+40|-0) ago 

In case the link is misbehaving for some, yishan comments:

Here's one.

In 2006, reddit was sold to Conde Nast. It was soon obvious to many that the sale had been premature, the site was unmanaged and under-resourced under the old-media giant who simply didn't understand it and could never realize its full potential, so the founders and their allies in Y-Combinator (where reddit had been born) hatched an audacious plan to re-extract reddit from the clutches of the 100-year-old media conglomerate.

Together with Sam Altman, they recruited a young up-and-coming technology manager with social media credentials. Alexis, who was on the interview panel for the new reddit CEO, would reject all other candidates except this one. The manager was to insist as a condition of taking the job that Conde Nast would have to give up significant ownership of the company, first to employees by justifying the need for equity to be able to hire top talent, bringing in Silicon Valley insiders to help run the company. After continuing to grow the company, he would then further dilute Conde Nast's ownership by raising money from a syndicate of Silicon Valley investors led by Sam Altman, now the President of Y-Combinator itself, who in the process would take a seat on the board.

Once this was done, he and his team would manufacture a series of otherwise-improbable leadership crises, forcing the new board to scramble to find a new CEO, allowing Altman to use his position on the board to advocate for the re-introduction of the old founders, installing them on the board and as CEO, thus returning the company to their control and relegating Conde Nast to a position as minority shareholder.

JUST KIDDING. There's no way that could happen.

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[–] Aradiel 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

That's for the copy/paste - I want to be in the loop, but refuse to give reddit traffic, so for the majority of these developments I am unable to actually see them unless someone copies/archives it for me.

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[–] Rommel79 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Couldn't Conde Nast potentially sue the hell out of Reddit for this?

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[–] 1F4A9 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Maybe he's angry about something other than Pao getting thrown in front of the wolves, and that something was the reason he left Reddit. Or did he just leave because he knew this would otherwise have happened to him?

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Don't give them the page views. Here: https://archive.is/hRvIM

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[–] codyave 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

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[–] NedTaggart 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Thank you, you are doing gods work, son. Every time I click on a link here that leads to reddit, I feel like i have just been rickrolled.

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 33 points (+33|-0) ago 

This isn't about Pao, it's not about sexism.

Kn0thing didn't realize /r/modtalk was private. There is no hope for him.

https://www.change.org/p/alexis-ohanian-to-step-down-from-reddit-board-and-administration-fire-alexis-ohanian

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[–] MustacheMac 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Exactly, it feels nice to have an objective viewpoint of it. Initially I cared but now that I'm on Voat I'm ok to watch reddit collapse.

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[–] wootnessmonsters 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

this seems like reddits last hope...upgoated

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[–] anamorphic 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Only has 262 signatures so far. I wonder if this new stuff that's come to light will speed things up.

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[–] channelfadge 2 points 21 points (+23|-2) ago 

If Reddit had become even more successful than ever in the last year, Pao would have taken all the credit. If more women had been hired to the reddit admin team, Pao would have claimed it was her that did that too. Now she is gone everyone is going 'she was just a scapegoat' while beforehand she had her face plastered all over everything in interviews and articles talking about the great changes she was making to reddit.

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[–] Rommel79 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Good. Let's direct them towards kn0thing now.

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[–] reshp1 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I agree, but specifically the firing of Victoria at least seems to not have been her idea, if yishun is to be believed. It's kind of moot because the Victoria thing just happen to put a likeable face on an undercurrent of discontent building ever since Pao took over.

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[–] RedditDead2005-2015 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well, the former CEO Wong did a pretty good job from 2012 to 2014 when Reddit's traffic jumped significantly. I still did not know who he was until last month's debacle. I didn't even know who Pao was until last month.

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[–] manicmessiah 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

Can someone transcribe what happened or make a slimgur mirror? Reddit and imgur are blocked at work

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[–] puppy528 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago 

And some of us just don't feel like giving them pageviews anymore.

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[–] Stoic 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Might as well use this comment to put the archive version here:

https://archive.is/l6yeo

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[–] Pajakistan 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

"I used to respect Alexis Ohanian. After this, not quite so much."

That actually made me mutter "holy shit" under my breath at work.

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[–] Firetail 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Sounds like something stinks at Reddit HQ. Although we all knew it this just confirms it.

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[–] Stip 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Holy shit, this is mutiny if not extremely bad PR.

It seems the new CEO does not have his people in check and this might spiral into a new meltdown.

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[–] Madbrad200 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Yishan does not work there anymore. Hardly "his people".

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[–] TheyKeepOnRising 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Its still very dangerous what he is doing, even as a former employee. It could tank is rep and make him unhireable if his comments against his former employer go too far.

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