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[–] zx1 0 points 64 points (+64|-0) ago 

More proof that Reddit is owned and operated by corporate media.

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[–] Fact_Checking_Alien 2 points 31 points (+33|-2) ago 

To be fair, Reddit itself is a corporation and the goal of corporations is to make money. Voat will inevitably become a corporation after a fashion and it's also likely the owner will inevitably sell. These are just things that happen with enough time and popularity.

Never forget that content aggregates require their users to be their product. The only time this will not be true is if users donate sufficiently and the owner is not a capitalist-minded person interested in entering millionaire-wealth. I myself would be more than ecstatic were my measly income only doubled - but I never expect anyone to abide by the same dreams of mediocrity in income.

Therefore the most important thing is to just always remain skeptical and observant of conditions as they develop. One can argue against them, but excluding rule of law there's not much else to do but pick up and move. Movement is the only ideal way to ensure a capitalist system can function in the confines of what we desire. Namely, an attempted free format for discourse and media evaluation without using us as products to be sold.

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[–] austenite12 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago  (edited ago)

the goal of corporations is to make money

You know what? I abjectly refuse this claim. The purpose of any business is to provide a good or service. If (and only if) they do this well they should be rewarded with profit. Allowing humanity's main goal to be ensuring corporate and investor profits is EXACTLY what has gotten us into this entire TPP quagmire.

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[–] testcore 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

This is the new normal. Once upon a time certain 'net startups could be trusted to be proponents of users' free speech, and taking a high-profile public stance was laudable and would reward the company with exponential growth. Now it's a race to the bottom to shape speech into something that helps sell ads.

Eventually, we'll probably move on from voat when it enters its most capitalistic phase of maximizing shareholder value.

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[–] Gday 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, the reason I abandoned reddit

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[–] cst 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Check out wikipedia.org or Mozilla.org to see that a popular website does not"have to"become a greedy corporation.

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[–] profanion 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Corporate media backed by so-called "safe space" movement.

[–] [deleted] 13 points 2 points (+15|-13) ago 

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[–] Fact_Checking_Alien 6 points 18 points (+24|-6) ago 

I believe the upvoting of jokes is one of the primary failings of this format. Do you really feel as though your joke, even if humorous, contributed to discussion in some fashion?

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[–] OceanPiglet 3 points 15 points (+18|-3) ago 

Please keep your shitty pun threads on reddit.

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[–] 404_SLEEP_NOT_FOUND ago 

And this is why Chairmen Pao was appointed CEO. Look back on it. Do you really think they were going to give reddit an Aaaron Swartz type of CEO? Or someone dirty, and unbounded by ethics?

Reddit is not a directly profitable business. They are basically a digital age newspaper. Controlling that is an indirect means to making a lot of money (or saving a lot of money by swaying public opinion). There is a huge market in public opinion shaping. Most of the money made off of reddit isn't even paid to reddit, it's paid to marketers who promote on reddit (and who use websites like boostupvotes.com)

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[–] mr_skeltal 0 points 53 points (+53|-0) ago 

All the people who are upset about the recent subverse bannings, this is why we need Voat. I'm not saying you shouldn't be upset but Reddit is not an option. Never again.

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[–] wb 0 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago 

At least there is a legitimate reason to the recent subverse bannings, reddit is just a mess now.

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[–] explorevoat 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Actually I saw hostility to people discussing it here.

There was a post talking about focus on SC shooting and flags being amplified so no one would notice the TPP. It got 4 downvoats, only about 11 upvoats.

But the comments - 4 upvoats for someone angry and bolding that "no one cares about trade it is not news."

So it was fought here too just with a lot less firepower.

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[–] mr_skeltal 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Yeah I expect the shills get quite annoyed that they have to work before they can downvote.

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[–] flyawayhigh 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

There was a post talking about focus on SC shooting and flags being amplified so no one would notice the TPP.

  1. Shooting is important in both news and politics

  2. Shooting not crowding out TPP stories on Voat.

  3. Point is essentially unqualified soft censorship -- peer pressure

  4. Articles of no productive value whatsoever that falsely deny discrimination abound.

  5. Based on 4, this comment was hypocritical

  6. There are always "more sensational" stories out there than what someone believes is important

  7. We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

You still want to complain about a few downVoats @explorevoat ????

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[–] 404_SLEEP_NOT_FOUND 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Yep. Was a digg user for a year, then went to reddit. Have been a reddit user for 6-7 years. Now on voat. I'll move to the next place as well.

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[–] luckypunk 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

archive link: https://archive.is/faPs5

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[–] Tecktonik 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

I like how the TPP is politics but all the shit about the Confederate flag is not.

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[–] Futura ago 

Politics and the news are pretty intertwined, I don't know how they can say political submissions aren't allowed. Where do you draw the line?

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[–] 404_SLEEP_NOT_FOUND ago  (edited ago)

Where do you draw the line?

Exactly as they want and have been doing. Arbitrarily, without heeding to any systematically enforced process, without rules, behind closed doors, without transparency-- basically however the admins want to do things. Why they do what they do is the unknown, and that's even scarier than if we did know why they were censoring content.

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[–] fuckyousantorum [S] 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

For some examples of the deleted stories go here: http://www.reddit.com/r/undelete

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

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[–] OceanPiglet 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Wow. What the fuck. Fuck reddit man. I was splitting my time between reddit and here. Now I'm only using voat. FUCK ALL OF REDDIT. Not just Pao, this bullshit is endemic in the site. From the users, to the mods and all the way up to the Herr Direktor.

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[–] austenite12 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I'm just glad there are still /r/conspiracy posts out there keeping a finger on the pulse of censorship on reddit but obviously it will never be heard by most.

I fully believe there will be a tipping point/max exodus from reddit soon.

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[–] OceanPiglet 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I like the idea of Voat becoming a larger platform but I think we may face a drop in quality comments and submissions which would be a massive shame. They have been more mature than reddit so far.

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[–] gabeh73 ago 

I agree...if we could only profit from our predictions...then we could helped fund better information sources for the public.

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[–] 404_SLEEP_NOT_FOUND ago 

Absolutely. Every time you spend time writing on reddit, they are profiting off of your contributions. Don't post there anymore, you are only giving them content to make money off of.

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[–] swfreak 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Reddit is sinking. So glad i found voat. So far i feel free here.

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[–] AnnoyingSeaant 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Welcome to Deus Ex.

Corporations, governement ,SJW and media all reunited in one goal : Removing your freedom, rights and quality of life.

See you in a reeducation camp, we'll be sent there for oppressing poor "unprivilegied" female CEOs.

I never asked for this.

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[–] austenite12 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This shit seriously has me considering sourcing an AK.

Ever read Super Sad True Love Story? It won't surprise me one bit to wake up in a week/month/year to find government checkpoints into and out of major cities.

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[–] DaveyCakes 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Wait, like the gun?

Buying an AK just seems like such a foreign concept around here.

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