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[–] HowieCameUnglued 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

There are 300,000 subs to TD. If 1% of them are assholes who doxx, etc, that's 3000 assholes. We're told not to look at all Muslims as terrorists because of the terrorist actions of a few. So why are they allowed to crucify 300,000 people because of the actions of a few?

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[–] Ywis 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Before I begin, let me be clear - I am all for free speech. I think that it is one of the basic human rights. However, free speech does not mean hate speech is okay, which is what I will be getting into.

That's all I need to know. If hate speech exists it by definition is the death of free speech. If there are words that you can't say by law then how is there free speech? In a world with hate speech you just have groups trying to make more and more speech "hate speech" while anyone clinging to free speech becomes criminalized.

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[–] RedditSuxBalls 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Apparently they're all for free speech as long as it's the same stuff that they agree with.

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[–] firex726 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's a form of religious doctrine. They setup ideas and beliefs which are beyond question or reproach, and to do so you're labeled a heretic/racist/misogamist, etc...

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[–] Empiricist 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I've yet to see a definition of "Hate speech" that will not eventually lead to "thought crime" as it's logical conclusion.

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[–] dontdoxxmefaggots [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

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[–] daskapitalist 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Reddit is leftist cancer.

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[–] GIF-lLL-S0NG 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Disclaimer - The following is my view and my view only, and does not represent any of the other default moderators. Also, my problem with T_D isn't the racism (if it is even there). My problem is the doxxing, the brigading, the harassment, and the vote manipulation.

Hi all. I am a default mod, posting under an alt, because sadly that's what reddit has become.

I'm here to talk about The_Donald (or T_D as I might refer to it in the post) and why it's making reddit worse, and especially so for us default mods.

Before I begin, let me be clear - I am all for free speech. I think that it is one of the basic human rights. However, free speech does not mean hate speech is okay, which is what I will be getting into.

Also, I don't think that what spez did is good. I think it's very unprofessional and the type of thing I would expect from a middle schooler. However, that is not the point of this post.

T_D used to be a quiet subreddit supporting Donald Trump. I was fine with it then. After all, this is reddit, and candidate subreddits are good. However, over the past few months, it has grown into a hateful, sexist, racist subreddit that frequently reaches /r/all.

I am going to provide reasons how it is making life difficult for default moderators (note the disclaimer).

/r/politics this election has been very controversial. Shouts of "CTR HAS INFILTRATED THE MOD TEAM" have been going around since the early days of the election. However, it's gotten way worse then baseless accusations.

/r/politics mods have been sent death threats, gifs of dead animals, and have been the targets of brigades that originate on T_D. And the T_D mods don't really care. Here is an example of T_D mods not caring about harassment. Here is another one. The thread in question is here, where T_D is literally making fun of harassment and death threats towards a moderators dog (and calling them "a little bitch"). On any other subreddit, the comments would be removed and the people behind them would be banned. Not on T_D, where the mods don't really care about any of it. T_D members even go so far as to attack the /r/politics mod in question over at /r/RandomActsOfChristmas (see here and here). During the leaks, different default mods were mentioned in T_D by users calling them horrible things (like this). Did the T_D mods care? Nope. They left those comments (and many more like them) up. For example, look here.

Yes, some of you T_D people might say that I'm a special little snowflake and that I need to get off reddit because this is all it took for my fee fees to get hurt. Consider this - other DM's have been sent horrendous stuff for the past year, and you guys didn't care. But when a few comments were changed by /u/spez because you guys were calling him a pedophile (with no evidence) you guys flipped out and acted like it was the next Watergate.

Thank you for taking the time to read my post. I am making this post because I believe /r/The_Donald is making this website worse for moderators and users, and I believe it needs to be banned.

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[–] Sonic 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

"I am all for free speech" he says before spending 5 paragraphs detailing exactly why he isn't.

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[–] Uberbob79 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That's how leftists work.
How they view the world is the only way to view the world.
They have ideas of how things are to be, pop out of that view = racist bigot homo-trans-islamo-phobe.
Just look at how they treat black people. Successful people counter that so they become uncle toms.
Also everything a progressive pushes is based on a lie.
Temperance movement, black lives matter, ect.

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[–] ShitArchon 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yep. I was watching that thread in real time. So much "another white Christian male" and "when will people wake up and realize that the real problem in America is white Christian men?" Then, less than 5 minutes after the FBI announced the name, which was obviously Muslim, the mods went into full "SHUT IT DOWN!!" mode. There wasn't even any racism or "Islamaphobia" going on. The mods shut it down to prevent possible hate speech.

How did such a redpilled comment get tolerated in the thread?

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[–] dontdoxxmefaggots [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

it didn't. they shut down the entire sub

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[–] RedditSuxBalls 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Controlled opposition.

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[–] ShitArchon 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Sounds accurate. Look at all the redirection and "don't give Omar Mateen fame" posts to defang the opposition.

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[–] firex726 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Voat isn't a viable competitor right now - but there will be one. These draconian, top-down rules are going to create a new competitor.

Yea, it's called Voat!

Do they think a competitor will appear fully formed from the ether, with posts and a population ready to join which no one had heard of beforehand?

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[–] RedditSuxBalls 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I would rather that Voat didn't become competition to Reddit because all that would mean is that all the idiots that now hang around Reddit would just come over to Voat. The good thing is that right now the culture of Voat is able to scare most people from Reddit away. If you're so sensitive you can't handle a few idiots posting racist shit - presumably, because they're just teenagers trying to be a edgy or some shit - you can fuck off. But that's just my opinion.

They made their bed and now they can lie in it.

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