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[–] RedditDead2005-2015 [S] 0 points 93 points (+93|-0) ago 

"We have decided to lock this thread due to the amount of biased and uncivil explanations that have been posted as well as the amount of debates it's spawned."

OMG, a discussion forum spawning debates. Anarchy, I tell you! ;)

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[–] 123_456 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago 

WE HAVE DECIDED TO LOCK THIS THRED DUE TO US BEING MENTALLY TRIGGERED AND THAT WE DON'T REALLY WANT REAL DISCUSSION JUST SHIT THAT CONFORMS TO OUR SPECIFIK NARRATIVE, SINCERELY, MOD CUNTS.

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[–] jaceame 0 points 36 points (+36|-0) ago 

We had to cancel this debate because of contrasting opinions.

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[–] psychosomatic 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Too much fucking debating in this world.

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[–] svipbo 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

uncivil explanations

"It's not what you say, it's the way you say it!" But in truth, no matter how you say it, they won't be happy with it.

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[–] bagano1 0 points 64 points (+64|-0) ago 

I used to teach in ghetto schools in the US. If you think black people are struggling because of racism and poverty, you are a fucking idiot. Some of those kids and their families probably have more money than the people who call them poor. They're not suffering, but they are hurting their communities by being so willfully ignorant in schools.

I've suggested one way to fix the problem is to stop making school mandatory past a certain grade. The only way to make something attractive is to put it out of the reach of many people. Private industry understands this, the government does not.

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[–] luckycharms 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

I'd be greatly interested in some of your stories. The school I attended as a child was a public one in a poor area. Because of my experiences I agree with your sentiment.

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[–] bagano1 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

Well, right now, the current administration is pretty much making a lot of schools ridiculous. Many schools can't discipline kids, especially black kids. They're being called racist for suspending kids, so right now, many are just having security guards take kids back to class instead of suspending them when they're taken out.

I never used to see kids being beat to death in bathrooms, but that just happened the other day. It's seriously going to have to get ridiculous before people put their foot down and say, "enough of this Marxist horseshit, it doesn't work." It's a cancer, it really is.

Oh yeah, the state education departments are a complete joke. Most are staffed by prissy housewife types who have zero clue on how to fix these schools. All they do is use techniques that would have worked in a white, prosperous school district, where kids actually listen. Black kids are a WHOLE other story.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

What are your beliefs on race IQ and academic performance? Any trends?

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[–] bagano1 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Nothing that you wouldn't observe in the US normally.

I notice that Asians are pretty smart and intelligent, East Indians are book smart, but otherwise aren't very open-minded. Hispanics, depending on the background, can be a lot like whites or trashy. Blacks are very difficult to deal with. It's very hard to reason with them on issues. They have to fight over every little thing.

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[–] RedditDead2005-2015 [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

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[–] bagano1 0 points 43 points (+43|-0) ago 

6th grade is when many of the kids in those areas really get bad.

I'd say that the cutoff grade should be somewhere around middle school.

Before anyone says, "We're going to have a nation of uneducated people!", remember, these kids are uneducated voluntarily to begin with! Keeping them in school won't change a thing.

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[–] MaunaLoona 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Parents should decide what is best for their children, including where and whether they go to school.

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[–] GimmeTheUsual 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Hell yes.

Make education something that people want to achieve. Don't force them into it beyond the bare minimum needed to ensure they aren't crapping their pants at the bus stop. I'm tired of people thinking that schools will automagically turn out these perfect citizens. The kids only learn if they want to learn, and if they don't give a shit, they end up disrupting the class and fucking it up for the ones that do want to be there.

I'd say kick out the troublemakers, give them three strikes maybe to keep the marginal ones that just need to fucking learn not to be idiots, and let the rest of the terminal retards just duke it out for the minimum-wage jobs they truly deserve. Life gets real serious when you don't have a roof over your head, so their time will be spent working their asses off, wondering if being the class clown was worth the price.

Later, if they mature, they can try to get educated, but the rest of them can rot....

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[–] lexsird 2 points 36 points (+38|-2) ago 

Explain like your 5? K.

The black people ruin everything. It's expensive cleaning up after them. This is why we can't have nice things.

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[–] Samchay6 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Best answer.

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[–] SecularPenguinist 0 points 29 points (+29|-0) ago 

Reddit has become such a joke. It's like a SJW utopia over there.
Too bad the real world isn't one big safe space.

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[–] wolfsktaag 2 points 24 points (+26|-2) ago  (edited ago)

these guys sound like old astromers, inventing convoluted cycles and epicycles to explain the motion of planets, because they absolutely would not accept the obvious answer: the planets orbit the sun, the earth isnt the center of the universe

likewise, these ideologues will jump thru any hoop imaginable rather than accept the obvious: very low IQ minorities pack themselves into cities

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[–] RedditDead2005-2015 [S] 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Sadly, it's mostly young white liberals who just regurgitate what they've been brainwashed by the media to believe - that blacks are just like you and me. And then when you point out that poor whites or poor immigrants are still able to succeed academically, they'll imply that black poverty is different than white or immigrant poverty without realizing how racist that idea is. They will basically acknowledge that given a poor black, a poor white or poor immigrant, the poor black will always fail.

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[–] derfherdez 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What the fuck are you talking about? Science is all about consensus! As long as everyone agrees, it is a FACT.

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[–] ambissinistro 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You can't usually trust a scientist because they all have different opinions.
But you can trust that niggers are dumber, and that's a science fact!

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

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[–] idle_voating 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago  (edited ago)

There was also a comment mentioning how poor Asian kids in the Bronx were outperforming the wealthier white kids in the suburbs.

edit. I do think it's more a shitty culture than genetic IQ, based on what I've seen of Nigerians, Kenyans and Jamaicans.

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[–] etzefeck 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

the only Nigerians Kenyans and Jamaicans to make it to the United States are the wealthy pampered ones who had a lot of money put into their upbringing. they are the micro minority and they do not represent anyone other than themselves and their family.

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[–] idle_voating 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

No, poor ones from all 3 countries immigrate into the United States and Canada. There are also a lot poor immigrants from all 3 countries in England.

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[–] eagleshigh 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The only Nigerians that come here are the Ibo mostly. And they're some of the most intelligent Africans.

http://www.unz.com/pfrost/the-jews-of-west-africa/

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[–] 5018818? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The thing very few people want to talk about: culture. Modern black culture hinders their group. Why? There are many reasons part of it is pop culture and the break down of the family unit.

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[–] eagleshigh 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

In this paper by Steven Ruggles, he says that analysis confirms that the high incidence of black Americans of single parenthood and children residing without their parents is not a recent phenomenon. Data shows that from 1880 through 1960, black children were two to three times more likely to reside without one or both children than white parents. This directly goes in the face of what liberals say is the cause of the demise of the black family structure. Ever since blacks have been free from slavery has this begun to happen.

http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Articles/Af-Am-fam.pdf

Men who stay and raise children have, on average, lower testosterone. This was noted in the West, but non-Western samples gave differing numbers. The study was conducted in two East African populations from Tanzania, Hadza foragers and Datoga pastoralists. They predicted that high levels of paternal care by the Hadza fathers would be associated with lower testosterone and that no difference would be found in non-fathers and fathers of Datoga men, who provide direct paternal care. The measurements in both populations confirmed the hypothesis, as well as adding further support that decreased testosterone leads to more paternal care.

http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/276/1655/347

Blacks average 19 percent more testosterone than do whites.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3455741

Now putting all of this together we get: blacks leave their children more often due to higher testosterone. Whites have lower testosterone and have a single parent rate if around 22 percent compared to the black rate of 72 percent. Since there are genetic testosterone differences between blacks and whites and sickening slavery ended this trend had been seen, along with the study of lower testosterone father's staying with their families and the higher testosterone father's leaving, we can see that there is a huge genetic component.

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[–] derfherdez 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

the break down of the family unit

Brought to you by the democratic party.

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[–] ArchmageMordenkainen 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Culture itself is derived from ethnicity.

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[–] eagleshigh 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

IQ defines culture, culture doesn't define IQ. Those societies with higher IQs have higher qualities of life.

Where do you think culture comes from? It's an expression of genetics.

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[–] novictim 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

[–]MUH_IDEALISM 7 points 2 hours ago Because IQ corresponds heavily with race, IQ corresponds heavily with scholastic achievement (below a certain point, schooling is near pointless) and race correlates heavily with "urbanity" in the United States. As long as we continue to pretend that it's a grand failing of policy, the problem will persist as we throw more and more money at it and nothing gets done. This is an issue in desperate need of real talk but you can't have real talk if everyone is supposed to pretend something is true when it isn't true, or that normal logic doesn't apply and we have to use "new logic" as handed down from academic ideologues.

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[–]the-outsider [score hidden] 54 minutes ago Wonder how long it will take Reddit's moderators to delete this comment like the dozens of other IQ-related answers they have promptly deleted in the past eight hours. If Hillary or Sanders win, what you just wrote will be prosecutable as a federal hate felony.


This Political Incorrectness is exactly what Reddit pretends to want to fix by censorship. In reality, all they are doing is short circuiting the argument and leading to the conclusion that the censorship side has no argument and no ethics.

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