[–] Hayashimo 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Why does no one mention control over your computer in these articles? And I mean more than customizability here.

With Linux I never have to fight with my computer when I want to do something like it's fucking HAL telling me, "I'm sorry. I can't let you do that."

Want that file gone? It's gone. Don't want pointless bloatware? Get rid of it. Linux won't argue or block uninstallation privileges. Don't want to see fucking ads in your start page? No worries.

That was one of the big things for me when I switched.

[–] acratus 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago  (edited ago)

This is a brainlet article.

  1. Disk space is plentiful and cheap these days. All the different DLL variations you're keeping in SysWOW64 prevent you from encountering headaches with different library versions installing anything outside of the distro's package manager.

  2. Memory is plentiful and cheap in 2018. 4GB is all you need to have plenty of tabs open and play the vast majority of games in any currently supported version of Windows, and any computer sold within the past 7 years is almost guaranteed to have that.

  3. You have to update Linux too. You are much more likely to encounter a system-breaking botched update when you update Linux.

  4. Security by obscurity isn't real security. A 0-day isn't going to be responded to as fast by distro managers as by a multi-billion dollar company.

  5. You may care about customizability but the vast majority of people just want to change their desktop backgrounds once in a while.

  6. The vast, vast majority of widely-used open source projects have Windows versions too.

  7. Supporting older hardware, and using scarce resources more effectively, may be one of the few true upsides.

  8. The cost of Windows is trivial; it comes with your machine most of the time and if it doesn't then it's no more than $100-140 on a computer you're building that probably costs thousands.

  9. Getting help for doing anything outside of the ordinary on Linux is a giant pain and usually involves asking pretentious idiots on IRC for favors that they are not obligated to give. Microsoft support is not great but it does exist and they can help you; in fact they are paid to do so. I know from personal experience.

  10. Privacy is also a true upside and is probably the defining reason to use Linux, though it isn't perfect as companies like Ubuntu are known to put telemetry in their pre-built installers.

[–] soabirw 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Security by obscurity isn't real security. A 0-day isn't going to be responded to as fast by distro managers as by a multi-billion dollar company

Fair breakdown except this point. We see the opposite. MS refuses to acknowledge security flaws even when warned of them directly by white hats. They will ignore for months. Where open source gets fixes out at shocking speeds.

[–] throughtheblack 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I run Ubuntu and almost every time I read that a major security flaw has been found, the update has already been released and installed on my system. When it's a serious threat, patches are usually rolled out within hours of them being discovered.

[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Supporting older hardware,..., may be one of the few true upsides.

And a drawback. Sometimes support for newer hardware is very slow in coming. And networking can be a nightmare on some distributions no matter how new or old your hardware is unless you know that actual chipset and revision inside your hardware (not likely for most people since they know they have a DLink DWA 131and not a Realtek 'RTL8192SU' chipset that may not even be the actual name)

[–] throughtheblack 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Realtek is the bane of wireless support on Linux. They often release drivers for Linux, but they almost always don't work or have major bugs that never get fixed. You have to wait for someone to patch the Realtek drivers or until someone reverse engineers the official drivers and creates an open source alternative that actually works. It can take years until their chipsets work properly. And yet the vast majority of wifi adapters use realtek chipsets. Ralink, Atheros and Intel seem to work much more reliably under Linux.

[–] Dresgard 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's refreshing to see such an unbiased assessment. Clearly you both know what you are talking about and have hopes for the future of Linux.

[–] UnknownAlias365 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's why I never like those "x reasons why linux is better than windows" articles or youtube videos. They all have stupid fallacy-filled arguments or moot points. I think the privacy one especially is a moot point because everyone who bitches about Windows 10 privacy all have smartphones and Google services, which both are thousands of times worse than what Windows 10 wanted to do. On top of that, even if you went through every measure to protect your privacy, what they forget is as long as they're connected to the Internet, they have no privacy. Period.

Me, I use Linux for other reasons besides muh privacy. Like for example, I have Linux on an older laptop I own because it doesn't run Windows 10 well. It's understandable because it is an older mid range laptop after all. I also love Linux because it's the perfect minimalist OS for when you either need to really dedicate your resources to other things, or for when you don't need to do much on the machine at all, like using it as a server, or a simple web browser/email checker.

[–] vandilx 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

People run Windows for two major reasons:

  1. Games - mostly everyone, but usually home users.

  2. Access to full Microsoft Office (or other app that is either Windows-only or runs like shit in WINE, VMs) - usually business users. Office and Office-like programs are available for other platforms, but they don't do all the things businesses need that the Windows versions do.

[–] ThisIsMyRealName 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Regarding Office, can you elaborate on the things businesses need which aren't available in Linux? I'm genuinely curious, because I'm not a Windows admin and have never been. Red Hat is my bread and butter. Outside of viewing documents in Word and Excel, and doing email with Outlook, I've never used the vast majority of features included in Office.

[–] vandilx 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There are are businesses that use macros in Excel and Word that were written in the Office '97 and Office XP era. They require libraries present in Windows in order to function.

There's also ways to set up Microsoft Access databases to use pass-thru authentication from the logged in Windows user's domain account login credentials to access the database.

Files that are secured onto a Sharepoint server or otherwise use a "checkout/notify" method of ensuring two network users aren't write access to the same file at the same time, can also be locked down via Active Directory, requiring the user to be on Windows.

A lot of this is old stuff, but you'll find many businesses with a thriving and heavily interlinked Windows ecosystem don't care if they are compatible with non-Windows systems, so long as a macro or file access level is maintained.

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[–] drj2 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Are you saying windows does?

[–] ranch-othelioma 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

My main reason is easy access to installation media. I can make an install USB from one of my machines running mint and have another not so new laptop, that I had to replace the hard drive in, up and running in less time than trying to figure out how to get an official install of Windows going.

[–] Doctor_Manhattan 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Almost all people just don't care. They just use the default that comes with what ever they bought. If it's more then a one click install, they will not bother. They believe in nothing, they are just consumers....

The real drive to adoption is from big companies. Stuff like android//ChromeOS/SteamOS.... And the result out of the box is practically spyware....

At least Linux is slowly wining and windows is on it's way out. Even microsoft "loves" linux now. The future will be some big mac spyware version of linux for the masses,and a fillet mignon version for a minority of power users. At least we'll have good drivers and native applications from corporations....

[–] Neinlife 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

People who cannot make windows 10 work the way they want it to are not going to be able to make linux work either.

I keep windows for games. That is the only reason. Steam has the right idea. I hope blizzard follows suit.

Until that time I am well versed in computer operating systems and it does what I tell it.