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[–] roznak 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

For the Windows users,

Linux mint can be found here: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3051

Also note that this version they intent to support Mint 18 until 2021, and you will get upgrade possibilities. So no more reinstall when you upgrade to a newer version of Mint,...

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[–] MRPockets 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

So no more reinstall when you upgrade to a newer version of Mint,...

While this is true, there are occasional hiccups with upgrades instead of reinstalls. That said, I've only ever had the upgrade fail once (with Ubuntu, not Mint) & it was repairable if I had had the patience to do a little searching online.

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[–] freddymercury 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

One of my sons constantly gets malware no matter how I harden his windows syst. For a quick fix I burned a Linux mint DVD when this distro came out , booted it live, installed java and minecraft in a few minutes. BANG seven year old was good to go. Minecraft runs faster. Gonna test a bunch of games with wine and maybe migrate the whole house.

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[–] ranch-othelioma 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You may want to also try Firefox with noscript added on to prevent browser junking.

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[–] Kal 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The problem with noscript for a novice is that it breaks most sites.

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[–] turbotuck 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Everything just works, its brilliant. Every small thing that hasn't worked before is fixed.

I recommend everyone who uses Windows to try it.

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[–] crustyjuggler 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Don't forget to change the theme to mint-y instead of mint-x. Not sure why they didn't change the default themes.

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[–] 5782712? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

A blog post explained that they don't want to change too much on users in too short a time.

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[–] crustyjuggler 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That makes sense. They probably realize that they are the go-to distro these days to get people off the microsoft bandwagon. I just feel like some of us who are intermediate linux users may never see it. I found it only after installing the numix icon pack.

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[–] roznak 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Some feedback in regard to Mint 18. I love the UI but they also tend to go to the animation like drop down boxes and stuff. This may not really be what people are interested in if you work with it daily, actually it reduces your productive and becomes annoying.

When I click on a menu and it is instant, then I know exactly where I have to click because of muscle memory, but when the menu moves like it does now then it is harder to click on that moving target and you risk clicking on the wrong menu item. Now I am forced to wait 0.25 more seconds before I can click it. This reduces productivity but is also very tyring since I haver to focus on the movement and wait until it stopped.

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[–] Goater [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I can see how that would be annoying, maybe I'm just going crazy but the drop downs and menu items have become near instant for me.

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[–] roznak 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Maybe my brains work faster. LOL

When you right click then I see a none-linear opening of the popup menu. The same for the normal menus. The movement is maybe 0.25 seconds but my brain has to wait longer until it starts to realize that movement has stopped. It also forced strain because now I need more focus and follow the movement with my eyes, Finding something that is stationary or finding something that is moving is harder. It becomes a problem if you are behind that desktop for profession. It adds stress because it is like tagging a moving ball every time you open a menu. It also induces higher risk that you press the "Delete now" menu item instead of the "Save File'.

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[–] Toroidal 5 points 3 points (+8|-5) ago 

Is it infested by systemd?

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[–] Goater [S] 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Well, yes, by default.

The way I view it is I'd rather have herpes from Mint than Aids from WIN10.

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[–] rhy 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Go devuan with mate. You just need to give the face plastic surgery after install, but no STDs!

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[–] Chance 4 points 4 points (+8|-4) ago 

People need to get over this and move on. The only valid complaint I feel there is for Systemd is it stretches itself too thin in what it tries to accomplish.

Every major/common distribution uses it now though. There are bigger things to worry about and focus on.

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[–] Toroidal 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

Naw, I'll keep avoiding distros that have it.

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[–] 2716057 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

There's more problems with it, aside from trying to do too many things...

First, you have binary log files. This means that when something crashes, and you go to the log files to see what crashed and why, they're corrupted and unusable. This is in contrast with traditional logging, which doesn't corrupt the logs due to having to be written in binary.

Second, you have the secondary and tertiary effects of wearing too many hats. You end up with Systemd "fighting" with other modules in your system, and then it becomes a problem. For instance, when I installed XFCE, Systemd and XPowerManager fought each other over who would put my computer to sleep, and my fan and processor would speed up... heating my laptop up in my bag, and causing damage if you weren't paying attention. This happens in many, different ways/situations, with many different modules.

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[–] frizla 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

well yes of course

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[–] MRPockets 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Still better than Windows 10.

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[–] roznak 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I also have been using it. I planned to wait for the upgrade version, but then decided to go the full install from scratch.

I just have an issue under VMWare, somehow the tools does not work like I had with 17.3. I cannot copy and paste between different VMWare machines but with v17.3 I could.

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[–] crustyjuggler 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Did you use open-vm-tools?

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[–] roznak 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The one that VMWare tries to install. I reinstalled them many times but the same result.

It does work somehow since I don't have to press Ctrl-Alt to get out of focus, but the copy and paste does not work between Mint 17.3 VM , Windows and Mint 18. I have to copy and paste through a shared drive.