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How could that be? Mint is entirely based on Ubuntu and Ubuntu uses systemd. If mint uses a different init system, it adds their already uphill task of "de-customizing" ubuntu/unity and fixing their issues. So, I don't see the point.
Currently Mint 17 is based on Ubuntu 14.04 which doesn't have systemd. In a short while Mint 18 will release based on 16.04 so then Mint will be using systemd.
Mint 17 is LTS so will be supported till 2019, I think.
Devuan is awesome. It's every bit the successor to wheezy. I'm running mate on it now. < 300mb memory used. Excellent stability, all my apps work. Fast. Stable. Easy. Solid. Like debian used to be.
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I looked at it. Even in the build script section everything was way out of date. I thought to my self I guess I could contribute. But then I also considered I would never be able to use this OS as a VPS and I would be contributing a lot as a part time user.
This is true. You have to work a lot harder, and often with less than optimal results -- okay, half the time you've wasted several hours. As a desktop, it's about in the state that Linux was ten years ago, though with better repository support for the major distros. But if you want to steer clear of systemd entirely, that's the path to take.
Full disclosure: while all of my servers are running FreeBSD, I'm still using Linux for my gaming rigs. I, too, found the compromises too great to fully make the leap; I'm just putting it out there as an option.
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[–] 5651854? 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago (edited ago)
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
PCLinuxOS doesn't use systemd http://www.pclinuxos.com/
http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2016/06/an-everyday-linux-user-review-of_23.html
[–] Disappointed 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
PCLinuxOS is a great distro. I'd be using it myself it it wasn't (semi)rolling release.
http://communityiso.pclosusers.com/ has a few different desktop flavors.
[–] Stinkieroldgoat ago
What's wrong with rolling release?
[–] Troll 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Gentoo uses OpenRC by default.
[–] AssaultMonkey 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is the last LTS that doesn't use systemd. Still supported, and lots of people use it. I still do.
[–] Failure 2 points 1 point 3 points (+3|-2) ago
Mint doesnt use systemd last time I checked
[–] luckyguy [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
I don't know how to put this kindly to you but: https://youtu.be/F-LKVqova-o?t=1m53s, 1:53 if embed.
[–] 5654838? ago
Clever use of that video but... Mint 17.3 and older does not use systemd.
[–] Drenki ago
I'm excited as evidenced by my nipples' pertness.
[–] prahladyeri 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
How could that be? Mint is entirely based on Ubuntu and Ubuntu uses systemd. If mint uses a different init system, it adds their already uphill task of "de-customizing" ubuntu/unity and fixing their issues. So, I don't see the point.
[–] Disappointed 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Currently Mint 17 is based on Ubuntu 14.04 which doesn't have systemd. In a short while Mint 18 will release based on 16.04 so then Mint will be using systemd.
Mint 17 is LTS so will be supported till 2019, I think.
[–] rhy ago
Devuan is awesome. It's every bit the successor to wheezy. I'm running mate on it now. < 300mb memory used. Excellent stability, all my apps work. Fast. Stable. Easy. Solid. Like debian used to be.
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[–] luckyguy [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I looked at it. Even in the build script section everything was way out of date. I thought to my self I guess I could contribute. But then I also considered I would never be able to use this OS as a VPS and I would be contributing a lot as a part time user.
[–] Kookus 2 points 0 points 2 points (+2|-2) ago
Try getting used to BSD. As a server OS, you'll wonder why you waited so long, and as a desktop it's not too shabby.
[–] Stinkieroldgoat ago
Fine unless you game. Steam and Linux games by and large don't play nice. If not that for that, I'd use it. I liked how it worked
[–] Kookus 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
This is true. You have to work a lot harder, and often with less than optimal results -- okay, half the time you've wasted several hours. As a desktop, it's about in the state that Linux was ten years ago, though with better repository support for the major distros. But if you want to steer clear of systemd entirely, that's the path to take.
Full disclosure: while all of my servers are running FreeBSD, I'm still using Linux for my gaming rigs. I, too, found the compromises too great to fully make the leap; I'm just putting it out there as an option.