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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Yes and no. The truth is that these things were coming at some point. Places were already testing them around the country. But it is pretty undeniable that the pace at which they are being deployed has quickened since the minimum wage hikes have started getting out of hand. A raise to $10 might not cause it so quickly, but all the talk of $15 (just a number pulled out of some politicians ass) has pushed things forward.

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[–] Sosacms 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

My two main beefs with minimum wage is when it get raised federally instead of city to city and it isn't annually. Wages fall further and further behind until things have gotten so bad they have to double the minimum wage. So instead of a gradual 2% raise it's a massive 100%.

Plus it's hard to balance large corporations witg small business.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Nationwide minimum wage should not exist. What it takes to live in one city might make you almost upper middle class in another.

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[–] mamwad 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

Labor really can't compete with automation at any worthwhile wage. It doesn't really matter whether the wage is 7.25 or 10.10. These kiosks are not expensive.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

They are more expensive than you think. It isn't just the cost of the kiosk that is involved, there is infrastructure involved as well as maintenance. Those thing may even cost more than the kiosk itself.

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[–] rwbj 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think you're hand waving in expenses. Fundamentally a self serve kiosk is nothing but an LCD and a computer running software that a 20 year old PC could trivially run. We're talking software and electronics in the tens of dollars per unit. A $60 tablet would work just fine and have all the components necessary for functionality including support for a network connection to a similarly simple setup in the back. A credit swipe machine could be integrated trivially as well. Maintenance is comparable to what you spend maintaining your PC - close to $0. One of the bigger costs is going to be the aesthetics - the shell and casing protecting the electronics and making it look like they didn't just fire somebody and put a cheap ass tablet in their place!

I think this has little to nothing to do with the minimum wage. Companies just need an excuse to swap over so they can redirect blame. If Wendy's did this without the timing of the minimum wage they'd be demonized - instead the minimum wage law is demonized. They substantially increase their margins and do so without a PR hit.

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[–] Sosacms 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Progress and efficiency will displace jobs faster than society can create new jobs. The way technology progresses, eventually there will be practically no need for human workers.

Personally I think that should be humanities end game but thats one hell of a transition.

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[–] barset 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

They should take a page from Asimov's robotic laws.

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[–] Sterfry 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's what they say now, but what about ten years from now when the technology is a quarter the price? Even if minimum wage never goes up, they will replace us for them eventually.