[–] Seruun 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

"just joking", oh you little edge-lord you... Also, please consider not dumping a wagon load of salt and spaghetti every time someone hurts your fee fees, thanks.

Mock #NotYourShield mercilessly.

No. This tag is one of GGs greatest assets in destroying the narrative that GG is full of straight white mysoginerds.

The other points however are worth thinking about and I'll be happy to disguss their merrits further.

Also Rule 3: Let me help you understand. I'll high-light the relevant parts.

Detrimental shitposting that can bereasonably expected to have a real,** harmful effect on the ability of KiA/GamerGate to accomplish its goals** and which provides no constructive input. See also: Divide-and-conquer shit-stirring, intentional and repeated derailment, lying about the rules, impersonation, and false-flagging.

Having looked at the relevant comment history, I think that the mods have a solid case for the ban so there won't be any pity from me.

[–] SexMachine [S] 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I think aspects of John Kelly's proposal should be discussed. I don't agree with his number 2 either. I think #NotYourShield should be put to rest though because that was like saying "We can do Social Justice better that SJWs!! Look at us!!"

White people are a majority in America, and video games are primarily played by men. What's so wrong with that? You know what else is mostly white males in America? The military, police, and emergency services to name a few. I just think that the "Death of the Gamer Identity" and articles like that were an attack on the white men in America, and it should have been defended as such instead of saying, "nuh uh, we've got women and PoC too! More than you even!" I don't think mocking #NotYourShield to end it is the right direction though. They're not the media's shield, but they shouldn't be our shield either.

[–] Seruun 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Point. Ideally the ethnic/gender composition of any given group should not matter (where it isn't explicit relevant). Sadly neither humans nor human society works that way. Racism is inherent to the human condition for evolutionary reasons.

However I think what made #NotYourShield strong is its use in breaking down the collective idendity politics to force the SJW and the uninformed public to acknowledge that individuals exist that do not agree with being talked over. Incidently, I think using the individualism vs. collectivism approach will yield best results when combatting identity politics.

I know, I know PR and such might not matter to everyone, but I think for GG the best chance for lasting success is win over the uninformed public/silent majority, they have the voting/economic power to stop progressive in their tracks by making their platforms untenable. The german "Pirate Party" adopted social justice and that was the moment they became irrelevant. The libertarians who supported them over issues like net-neutrality and merritocratic policies abandoned them for obvious reasons and what was left was highly redundant to established left-wing parties who have learned to keep their lunatics in check during election season.

However the wind is already changing, many people drew the right conclusion of the mizzou protests, i.e. a bunch of petulant children throwing a fit. Even better, you can count on attention whores to make the capital mistake to complain where the attention gone when something big happens.