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[–] onegin 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If you hang out in r/theredpill long enough you realize that it is not a PUA (pick up artist) subreddit and is more about gender philosophy, and rehabilitating former bluepillers, helping them navigate the frightening redpill experience they are now aware of. There is a fair amount of overlap with PUA folks but it's not at all the stated intention. It's been a while since I've been there but that was my experience.

I'd say there is a bigger overlap of mensrights and theredpill than there is between either of them and PUA.

I am just responding because "relationship gaming" sounds exploitative, like pick up artistry can be. Relationship "strategy" might be a better term. It's all about correcting an internal misunderstanding of women and helping guys get satisfaction in their lives and telationships, it is up to them to decide how to apply it. There are many paths. Early on after swallowing the pill it is basically quite unlikely that a guy will want a serious relationship. So he might go MGTOW and never really get into PUA or "spinning plates", or might do some combination of them.

Also there is a r/redpillwomen. Redpill is really just reviving what people used to know about dating back in the day. Like, guys, don't offer up exclusivity unless you think this woman might be the future mother of your children. And girls, don't fuck the guy unless you think he's serious.

That said, redpill and mensrights are different, so it is an unfortunate title.


[–] MaleGoddess [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I didn't use PUA because from what I've seen on that subreddit is they generally don't like PUA, and you're right, they do share more with the MRM than they do PUAs, but most of them wouldn't consider themselves MRAs.

PUAs use tricks to get girls, where TRP is more of the understanding of why tricks like that work. Evolutionary psychology, and how society has evolved faster than our natural reproductive strategies.

It's been a while since I visited that subreddit, so forgive me if I'm mistaken on anything. I've just given up on women completely and stepped out of the relationship game.


[–] onegin 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

MGTOW is the term I've heard for giving up on women / stepping out of the game. I think it can be a courageous path because it is nonconforming, and noble because it is staying true to your feelings about the situation. I am biased though because I am in a similar boat. It's hard work going on with life without the goal of getting yourself a girlfriend or wife for its own sake. It sure is character building, but it is slow-going and it's easy to forget why it's worth it. But it forces you to figure out what really matters to you besides solely striving to be satiated, and that forms the basis of your trajectory in life (instead of letting a woman define your life which will inevitably be unsatisfying). Lately I've come to the conclusion that the only circumstance I will actually pursue women for their own sake, is once I feel deep inside that I want to become a father. The search then is for the "mother of my children" as Bill Burr likes to say. Until then, any involvement with women will just have to be incidental and not divert me from my own path.


[–] Goomich ago 

I'd say there is a bigger overlap of mensrights and theredpill


[–] MaleGoddess [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Big overlap in ideologies. Remember "Listen and Believe"?

I heard all the bad things about TRP, seen the cherry picked imgur albums, and I decided to check it out myself. I posted my questions on r/askTRP, and shared some of my redpill/bluepill moments in the comments of the main subreddit.

I forget the "stages", as I've said it's been a while since I've viewed the sub, but the first stage is anger, that's men waking up to the reason their relationships failed and Chad Thundercock is railing out their ex-wife. Those are the comments that often get cherry picked. If you were to just go there and read the comments for 5 minutes, you might say, "what a bunch of woman hating men."

The way I saw the subreddit was as a place to learn how to keep your lady satisfied. What women say they want and what they actually want are two very different things.