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[–] ohnoesmikey 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

No. The hipsters are all engaging in their favorite pastime; Cultural appropriation. This is not new. Back in the 80's and on up until recently, people who gamed, whether it was the old consoles, or tabletop, were derided as nerds, geeks, losers and die-alones. Now it's popular and the people who hated gaming now love it and are 'gentrifying" it, just like they're doing with traditionally poor, black neighborhoods. If you do this, then fuck you.

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[–] ohnoesmikey 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I was being somewhat subtle in not using an gender-specific language. I played D&D with many women back in the day; At least they appreciated a role-playing cleric trying to proselytize converts before offering healing.

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[–] fry_hole 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I like this perspective. When you boil it down gender really has nothing to do with geekdom. I mean there are obviously much fewer women than men but its pretty irrelevant since women have been and are geeks for the same reasons men are. No one stayed up all night playing doom for attention.

"Gamergurls" are fucking annoying. But so are all the guys who have an iPhone and took Java in highschool who consider themselves geek. They are different sides of the same attention whoring coin. What I mean is the only people who are making this a strictly gender thing are anti-gg's.

Also I just now got the innie/outy thing. I love that.

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[–] Jorcky 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I agree with this. I'm a girl, but I'm also a vanilla WoW tank, a playstation early adopter, and Windows 95 survivor. I've been hit on my share of weirdos playing online, but so has my husband when he rolled a female rogue. Creeps are creeps in every community.

There are no girls on the internet. We're all just here to play.

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[–] eixan 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Women have always been gamers, since the beginning. We were just the outcasts among outcasts.

Im confused are you saying that there was always as many female gamers as male gamers? You say they were outcast among outcasts. Which either implies the male gamers look down on women just like anita's been complaining about which given the tone of your comment you seem to disagree with her. Or female gamers are a small group within the larger community which implies that women have always been part of the gamer community, but are a minority.

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[–] AustNerevar 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

No. The hipsters are all engaging in their favorite pastime; Cultural appropriation.

This is something I keep saying. I keep seeing SJWs talk about people who love Japan are guilty of cultural appropriation. Well, I think SJWs are guilty of cultural appropriation. I remember that it was around E3 in 2007 or so when suddenly, nerd culture was the in-thing. Out of nowhere, people were raving over comic books, video games, and anime. Comic-Con exploded, the midnight release for Halo 3 was crowded with hundreds of people, even in my small podunk town, and video games were more popular than they'd ever been. At first it was kind of cool...suddenly I didn't feel so much like an outcast. There were thousands of people like me and it seemed like more and more, my interests were being accepted into the mainstream. Then, as the years went on smartphones became commonplace, Twitter and Facebook changed the internet, the Big Bang Theory came on, and more people were aware of us.

Then the Sarkeesians came in and started shaming us again for not being exactly like them. It really does feel like my culture has been appropriated in that comic books are now an SJW haven (I stopped reading in 2006, but I grew up with them...knowing what's happened to them I probably won't ever go back), Reddit has been transformed into Tumblr 2.0, and now video games are being infested with these SJW indie devs.

I have nothing against SJWs having their own spaces...I'm all for freedom of expression and I want them to be able to speak their mind, even if their mind is filled with bigotry. But it feels like I'm running out of places to go. These are my passion hobbies and I want them to remain free of this overly-politically correct, radical feminist bullshit. Comic books were taken over, so people ran to video games, Reddit was taken over so we ran to Voat...well, video games won't be next. They can't be. I've been a gamer since I was like 4, playing A Link to the Past on the Super Nintendo...gaming is mine...it is the single hobby that takes precedent above all my other hobbies, even reading. I would sooner die than lost this bastion of nerddom.

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[–] shmuklidooha 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is what #gamergate is for. Don't let them pass, if they take over video games, who knows what's next.

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[–] tothetop 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

How is it cultural appropriation? Like you said, gaming took off and did become more mainstream. More people play video games now with varying degrees of time spent on it. I've enjoyed video games since the SNES and still play casually on a console. I am not a stereotypical "geek" or "nerd," but how did I appropriate anything by playing video games?

When things get more popular, they are unfortunately going to attract some unsavory types in the eyes of the people who were part of it originally. Reddit is a good example. It started off as a small discussion board for tech and other areas. As it grew, the interests of the users diverged greatly and you end up with the meme filled lowest common denominator board it is now. I'm sure that the original users don't like that, but at least they can stick to small subreddits if they wish.

I understand the frustration with the SJWs because I think they are terrible, but they are in society everywhere now. Not saying that their shit should be accepted, but just that it's not unique to video games or comic books. I'm more into sports and there has been a push in that area for female shit as well, albeit to a much lesses extent than I've seen in video games (thankfully SJWs are fat and lazy for the most part so they never took up an interest in something that requires them to move).

I guess I wrote all of that out to ask two questions. What makes you say it is appropriation and not just something becoming more popular which brings positive and negatives to it? And with SJWs' newfound interest in video games, why could video games be taken away from you?

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[–] nomenimion 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

They are the sexist monsters, and they know it.

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[–] Metasheep 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I don't think they do know it. They put their attribute points into outrage instead of self-awareness.

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[–] mnemosyne-0000 [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

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[–] turd_miner91 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

There is definitely a demographic inside of the gaming community, though, that is filled with bigotry, hate, sexism, and even threats of bodily harm. I feel like this group is more on FPS genre, but it is definitely there.

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[–] codioBunny 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Oh yeah it's definitely there. When men get constantly victimized and bullied by women for an innocent hobby, I'm not surprised when a small sect of them truly start to hate women.

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[–] Sragwaven 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I also think there's more to it than just one game or another, too, since I've heard so many conflicting experiences even from the same game, same modes, pretty much same everything except whether or not targeted sexism is experienced. It could just come down to individual servers for all we know. The problem is, everyone seems to be content just white washing all of gaming, genres, or particular games and being done with it. I think what's really going on isn't nearly so easy to write off, but no one is investigating it. I think the reason we see it on more popular games more often is because, well obviously, they're more popular, but I don't think it's the game itself, or even the overall culture of the online community for that game. (All the smaller, micro-cultures of individual servers, at certain times surely have some differences from the overall culture.) There's something else going on, but no one is willing to look.

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[–] Nationalist 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I feel like this group is more on FPS genre, but it is definitely there.

What, you've never seen the horrible racism of Kerbal Space Program?

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[–] fry_hole 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

My space program is basically kerbal genocide so you do have a good point.

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[–] reconstructedcaribou 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think the case is edgy outcasts being drawn to gaming culture rather than gaming culture producing edgy outcasts. Which is why the decrying of "This game content is so problematic, no wonder gamers are so sexist." is pointless and only serves to create the illusion of fighting some glorious culture battle to further the career of the critic.

It's strikingly similar to violent game hysteria in the 90's and 00's.