[–] Le_Squish 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Ooooooo, I didn't know about the duck/citrus/bees synergy. My knowledge has expanded. ..yah.


[–] AnmanIndustries [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The bee part will be an experiment, but it should work. It will also only work on a small amount of hives. The controls for larger hive quantities may not be able to be covered by birds eating the bees. It will also be shot down if you allow your birds to free range near the hives as they will just go there and wait for the bees to come out and fly past. You can also limit the amount of bees being eaten by providing separate water near the hives like normal.


[–] AnmanIndustries [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)


Plants. There’s a bit going on here:



Grows almost ANYWHERE. Can be used to feed animals and people. Rosemary can be dehydrated and turned into a flour. If you add a bit when cooking you get a massively strong rosemary taste and save yourself some flour (it is a very strong flour). This is an out of control hedge (on purpose) along the house. They are good hedges. It is currently un kept as I am using it to feed my pigs at the moment and its adjacent to a new garden project that may mean I need to move a few of them around. Unlimited supply at any time pretty much.

Stevia plants and a three chilli plants.


Stevia is great. It is however not very tolerant of the climate here. These two plants came from a very small plant that I bought last winter and the plant nearly died outside. It was quite expensive so I brought it inside and it managed to recover. This summer I managed to get these two enormous things out of it. I had to change the pot multiple times. Soon I will be bringing one of these inside for winter and see how the other one fares. I have already started to experiment propagating these as established plants can go for a bit of money. Also, free natural sweetener low in sugar. Goes well with tea. Sells at markets.

Spring Onions.


These were planted over a year ago and have been harvested at least 5-6 times each. Just cut them at the base and they will grow back again. Do not let them flower. The chance of them dying off is very high if you let them. These take up no room at all and as you can see, you can fit a lot into pots.

Kumquat with bonus.


This plant is actually a hand me down from my wifes grandma. It is OLD. Still going. I have been adding my own liquid fertiliser to it. As such a tomato seed has made its way through. Instead of pulling it out I have left it for 2 purposes. 1, free tomato, 2, its roots loosen the soil in the pot and draw out different nutrients out of the soil. When the plant is cut out, the roots will remain and decompose providing aerated soil and easily accessible nutrients.

Experimental zone.


All experimental plants come here to thrive or die. There is too much going on in here to give full detail. There is a lot of grass though, but there is a reason for this. Most plants that die or you are trying to root from cuttings do not take well to having their soil disturbed. By pulling out weeds you can make it worse for the plant. Also sometimes Im lazy. Currently there is a kiwi berry in here recovering from a death and a elder berry branch that has rooted. We had an edible lilly in here but it didnt survive summer. Some stuff in here: blue berry, black berry, baby bay tree, spare basil mint, spare thymes, attempted marjoram sweet cutting, mystery tree that is supposed to fruit but hasnt yet, stuff.

Experimental vermaculture setup.


Designed on the cheap to test a system for aquaponics, ended up trying worms first. It is all as you see. A pipe with holes in it, that has another pipe in it that keeps the water level and drains back into the worm farm. At the bottom is sump to collect the water. I originally tried a solar pump to keep the water flowing but it did not work well as my area is way too cloudy. So I ran a mains pump to a timer and put it in a water proof box. The house has large solar panels so I just set it to pump water during the day. All the plants are dead now because their time is over. I had romaine lettuce in there. You can pick the big leaves off as you need them and then it just keeps growing. But come the end of its life it bolts to seed and dies. So yeah. over all, the system worked well, but my worms didnt. I got an infestation of centipedes and they didn't last long after that. That being said, centipedes are also decomposers so I left them in there and kept the water going. All that ended up happening was that the garlic waste I put in there sprouted out of the box. Oh well. As you can see, that is just a pallet there holding it up. So it does not take much room. You could run two lengths of pipe on both sides with a low tray for the sump and worms/fish at the bottom. Plenty of aquaponics web sites out there go into detail about this.

Jerusalem artichoke (Which is neither from Jerusalem or an artichoke).


I put these in a couple of months ago to use this space after the wall was built. They grow in clumps and you can store them in the ground indefinitely as long as water does not collect there. They are actually sunflowers and you eat the root. The flowers and stems can be fed to rabbits, chickens, pigs, I think people can eat them too, but they don't taste nice. They spread underground quite fast so I hope to fill this blank space with flowers for the fun of it. That being said, if you cut the flower off it will actually grow bigger roots.

Random potato patch.


They're all sleeping now, out of season. I had this spare space that I wasn't using so I chucked potatoes in there. Man, they grow anywhere. In fact, they grew better here as they were protected from the hot summer sun we just had. Yeah, I didnt even bother to water any of my potatoes. Still got a bunch. There are other patches like this all over the place. The downside to not watering them is that they don’t get so big. We get plenty of small potatoes with just as many smaller potatoes that are not worth eating. As such, next year these will all turn into potatoes and the entire patch should be full.

Permanent harvestable garden.


This garden is in a constant state of reinvention, but the bottom shelf is pretty much done. We originally wanted the top part to be replantables, such as lettuce and radishes and so on and the bottom half would be herbs and things that are around all year long. Turns out top half was too much work. So we will be expanding the bottom half into the top half after a massive cleanup. Bottom: Sage, marjoram sweet, basil mint, pizza thyme, lemon thyme, chives, spring onions, lemon grass, rhubarb, kohlrabi. Plants that will be kept on the top: More sage, limequat (struggling due to climate, but holding on), strawberries, dwarf peach (last year when planted was hit with massive hail, thought it died, but seems to have survived), bay tree. There is currently potatoes, radishes, borage, chard, cabbages also hiding in there, but wont be replacing them (except the borage, can't stop that). There is also this:

Grape cuttings.


I will be creating a 20 vine vineyard in this space here:


So I am propagating the vine that I currently have. Which is this pinot vine here:


One vine. It's the last fruit of the year on it. You might think you cant fit 20 vines in the space above but you can. Instead of running the vines long horizontally, you run them short and then just have more wires to hang more vines vertically. I want to keep them this way as we get some pretty bad weather here, so if there is a huge storm only the top of the vines will be damaged and the rest will be ok.

I picked half of the vine last night:


In the middle bowl is half the prickly pear I picked from a new farm I am considering taking an interest in. The bowl behind is the last of my apples to process this year. A little hint, make friends with as many farmers as possible at markets and food swaps. We found this farm (the one where we picked the prickly pear fruit from) by offering to help an old farmer lady pick her fruit in exchange for a cut of the fruit. In the end she gave us half. We discussed business while we picked and the next thing I know Im scoping a new business opportunity.

Orchard (and my finger):


When trees are kept from getting too big you can grow a fair amount of them close together. but you must prune every year (you should anyway, but we do heavy pruning). We still get a lot of fruit off of them. Specially with the net cages we have in place. 4 star pickets and some poly pipe over the top. The pipes are tied together where they meet at the top. Net slips over and off easily. Birds cant even get fruit from the outside of the tree. A bit pricey, but very effective and lasts forever. 2 types of cherries, 2 types of pears, nashi (yes, I know it counts as a pear), 2 types of apple, 2 types of plum, a nectarine, a peach, a mulberry, 3 apricots and a quince.


The mulberry inside its cage. Doesn’t really need one as big, but you always plan ahead. If the tree dies (it is getting old), I can always replace it with any tree I want and not have to change the cage.


Part 3



[–] Voopin__Voopin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

its going to take me a while to read this, but before I really dig in, I'd like to say Thanks for pinging me :)

I looked at some of the pics earlier, now i gotta start with the reading.


[–] AnmanIndustries [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You asked for a ping and I agreed. Its not that long. It just looks like it.


[–] middle_path 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What an amazing post, thank you so much. Everything is beautiful. Do you both work, or mostly sell what you grow?

Also the fertilizer was an idea I have had, but was worried about it going anaerobic and being harmful to the plants. I've done this with weeds in the past and used the liquid. My garden seemed fine afterwards, but not spectacular. I'm in a small yard, so the smell meant it had to go.


[–] AnmanIndustries [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

We both work, and mostly sell what others grow. I trade my personal produce for the most part at food swaps.

As long as you dont put a lid over the top it shouldn't unbalance the oxygen content in the mix. In most cases, whether its devoid of oxygen or not is irrelevant. The main purpose of the liquid fertiliser is to introduce quick and easily accessible nutrients. As long as your soil is aerated enough, it should not matter. That being said, I do not know the condition in this regards of my fertiliser and I do use it on pots with red soil in it, that is not a very aerated soil and they always benefit.

I find once the crust builds the smell goes away, even after adding more stuff to the mix.


[–] 8655975? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What is a strawberry tree?


[–] AnmanIndustries [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

AKA Irish Strawberry Tree or Cane Apple.


We've put it at the front of the house as there is a lot of shade there, it is growing very well but has yet to give us fruit. It is very pretty, but if it doesnt give any fruit in the next couple of years its going.


[–] 8656710? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Interesting! I've never heard of this fruit. Do you eat it fresh? Dehydrate it? Make jellies/jams/pie filling with it?


[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Awesome! I thought I wrote long posts :-) you win!

This was a great read! Thanks!


[–] AnmanIndustries [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

No problem. I originally hoped for more photos and less text, but there really wasn't much worth taking photos of and I like to explain things. Whatever.


[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

No, I actually liked your posts. Lots of fun and quirky comments too!


[–] AnmanIndustries [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)


The scrap barrel:


So here is what you do. Let some water collect in here. Fill up a third with manure from any animal. Dump every single bit of bio degradable waste you can in it until it is full. At once stage when i was using it a lot we were putting paper towels in it. Fill it up with water. it rains a lot here so we didn’t have to. After a few days of hot sun it will stink like you wont believe. Give it a month or two and you have the perfect liquid fertiliser barrel going. The top layer of crap goes hard and stops the water from evaporating out (although it will slowly) and it ferments all the crap inside. Push a hole through the top layer and draw water out from it. Pour it into a pot plant that needs food. magic. Fill up with organic material and water as required. The fermentation process will not stop, even when its cold. Once the bacteria builds up its unstoppable. Every time you break that top layer though it will smell worse than shit. Small price to pay for not spending money on fertiliser. If you ever want solid fertiliser, you can take out the solids, but do not take out more than a quarter.

The property also has a lot of stuff all over the place. We are still building it up and the place is a mess but we get a LOT out of this property and the only real effort we have to put in is for the orchard (pruning and harvest) and to construct anything. Even our weeds are edible. A big mistake we let happen was letting some sorrel grow in our gardens and now I cant get rid of it. You can eat sorrel (just dont eat too much as in high doses it will limit iron absorption. DO NOT FEED IT TO ANIMALS). We run a dehydrator during the harvest season and our pantry is currently full of dried fruit. We also jar a lot of other products.

We also let borage go wild through our gardens. Borage is a miracle herb. It self seeds 100% of the time, it has the highest self replenishing pollen supply of almost any plant, which makes it a bees wet dream and you can use the entire plant. Anything you dont want to eat, you can feed to live stock. The older leaves can be prickly, but you can just break it like kale and its perfectly fine. The flowers are delicious. Also because it grows so fast it brings up a mega tonne of nutrients out of the dirt (like that tomato I mentioned).

We also have lavender, lemons, olives, a strawberry tree (which hasnt fruited yet though), pigface (it is edible, might be an Australian thing only though), Figs (but the tree is too big and the birds get to it before we do, keep cutting it back but not enough) and kangaroo berry (but my wife is too scared to eat it as it poison if not ripe).

You can also eat dandelions. We get a lot of that.

Random photos:

Cherry harvest (photos from last year, but same thing happens every year):


We have super cold climate cherries and they are way better than anything you can get in the store here.


One tree usually provides 2-3 buckets like this. We have 2 of these trees and a sour cherry tree which gives only 1-2 of these buckets.


Our brown pear tree’s harvest for this year.

my personal pigs from about 2-3 months ago. They aren’t kept on my property, they are kept elsewhere, but I see them every second day. They are quite big now. Almost time to convert them into food.


I work with a lot of small farms as part of one of my businesses, so I can answer a lot of questions about small farming and such.

Random advice: If you find a rare plant or expensive one that grows exceptionally or non stop on your property, then grow mostly that. Any plant that grows exceptional well will obviously provide you with lots of produce. Trade, sell or preserve it. Or preserver it, to trade or sell, as preserving food is a value add. Anything that increases the value of your product is always good.