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[–] Royal_Sequence 1 points 165 points (+166|-1) ago 

This is Voat so you guys do whatever the hell you want, but I as a selfish user think it would be simpler for it to be one subverse.

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[–] gene6482 0 points 36 points (+36|-0) ago 

Yeah, it'd be much better to not have two subverses fighting over the same content.

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[–] thefoolofemmaus 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Especially when we are this small. If, in some wonderful future where this is the huge online forum, the two needed to specialize in some way, I could see having two.

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[–] datapimps 0 points 49 points (+49|-0) ago 

I think a single sub would be better also

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[–] Aathroser 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

It also is less confusing for people who wish to have an AMA. They will know which to use. Fracturing your user base when it's this small doesn't really lead to anything good IMO

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[–] datapimps 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Yeah, I totally agree.. Less confusion = more AMAs!

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[–] retractableclaws 1 points 43 points (+44|-1) ago 

Fourth'd. I also vote for /v/ama to distance from reddit. Maybe they'll claim copyright, maybe they won't, and it sucks to be making decisions about names based off of some site we're not visiting any more. But honestly, I'd rather create a healthy sub now than have a lawyer tell us in 6 months to close a sub because of infringement.

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[–] j_ 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

Trademark, not copyright. Reddit owns the “IAMA” trademark, but you cannot copyright the idea or operation of a live online interview / Q&A session.

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[–] stonedasawhoreiniran 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Lawyered.

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[–] UlteriorMotives 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Is Voat not able to use "IAMA" then? We're obviously able to name subs whatever we want (I haven't seen Kleenex sue Puffs because I call them Kleenex), but if Voat as an organization wants to officially refer to /v/iama, can they? (Question asked by somebody who clearly didn't pay enough attention in business law.)

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[–] AtheistComic 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

AMA makes more sense. Reddit is dumb.

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[–] mvartan 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I also agree with /v/ama.

Because sometimes, you might want to say "I have ... ask me anything", comes out easier than "I am a person who has ... ask me anything"

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[–] jakeinator21 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yea, I always felt like IAMA didn't make sense most of the time in context.

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[–] TalkingAnimal 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

How about a third sub and get rid of the first two. Call is "AskMeWhatYouWant"

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[–] stonedasawhoreiniran 0 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago 

I just think it's fucky that Reddit got to trademark something their users made and profit off it.

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[–] jasu 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

How did they profit off it? Genuine question, not trying to defend them.

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[–] snake_pliskin 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

It generates hype. The media frequently reference AMAs. Hype brings visitors and in theory more visitors == more advertising revenue and/or directly through Reddit gold. I assume this is what OP meant...

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[–] brielem 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

/r/Ama draws a lot of traffic. Also a lot from non-redditors who like to read about their idol and even ask them questions and discuss the answers! And those who come for a certain AMA, might stick around then for the other content. It's a great way for reddit to get new users. And more users means more advertising/reddit gold money.

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[–] j_ 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I don’t know about specifics (some may claim paid placements of celebrity AMAs), but in general:

  • Reddit profits via ads and gold,
  • virtually all content is user-generated for “free”
  • ergo, Reddit profits off users

AMAs of celebrities and public figures like Obama attract a huge audience, often beyond regular Reddit users, and generate a large number of page and ad views.

I don’t have a problem with them trademarking “IAMA” however. It’s nonsensical but par for the course for any company today to protect their intellectual property, and it does not prevent anyone else from running similar crowd-powered Q&A interviews.

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[–] AustNerevar 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The AMA subreddit is Reddit's profit center. It's been that way for a while. It's a PR wet dream. At time it's been a PR nightmare, but that's due to the interviewee's own incompetency. Like when Woody Harrelson did an AskMeAnything, but told the users to stay on the topic of Rampart (his new movie at the time). It felt like satire, every question he answered always came back around to Rampart.

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[–] sergeant_skip 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Would you believe I've never seen the adjective "fucky" used before?! You just added a new word to my vocabulary.

P.S. Great username!

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[–] Womb_Raider 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Agreed. We must always keep in mind Voat could one day do this unless they state in a privacy agreement between their users NEVER to do so. I can't lie, it still hurts that reddit went sour.

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[–] EpicNoob 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They're going all huff po. "Thanks for all the content, it made us rich. Fuck you"

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[–] K3fka 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

Throwing in another voat for merging with /v/ama and taking on that name

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[–] YourDickGotTheHIV 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I am a (name), (buy whatever specific shit I'm trying to sell you) didn't make any sense anyway. Ask me anything is superior.

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[–] 0fux 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I agree. IAMA made more sense when it was just regular old users stating what they were. But when the doors opened up and the celebs came in: "IAMA James Franco" technically works, but sounds funny. The format "{title}, AMA!" works in general and it is much less confusing. There is also no ambiguity, like "IAMA," verbally, could sound like "IMA." And I personally don't like how "AMA," an acronym, is substring of "IAMA," which is a sentence fragment "I am a..."

/rant. but yeah, I see the logic in there being just one subverse for these things and I favor the "AMA" name.

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[–] oaken [M] 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

I have spoken to the other mods about this in the past, and what we decided is that at this moment voat is too small to differentiate the two.

Once the site gets big enough to attract "official" AMAs, one can be repurposed to be for more casual ones.

Of course these were just our thoughts at the time and up for discussion.

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[–] Reddiggoat 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I vote to merge and never go back. Permanent redirect to AMA. There will be new users here every day, even those not from Reddit, and having two will just continue to confuse things. Even if you get 10 celebrity AMAs per day, it should be up to the voters to determine whether they want to hear about them or about some interesting jobs.

Merge it here and now, make all the mods mods of both, avoid the power struggle before it gets too real.

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[–] Mr_Lovette 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I agree with this. If/when voat gets big enough, they will be required to be separate. One should however be more specific to casual AMA and straight up AMA.

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[–] Expir 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I feel that even if one of the subverses moved to a more 'casual ama' format the names being so similar would cause confusion.

In addition, if the site gets big enough to attract "official" AMAs, would the two subverses not end up fighting over who gets them, with the end-goal for each subreddit being 'get celebs, keep our name, force the other to change?'

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[–] oaken 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I doubt it would cause too much confusion, maybe at first. That is how the two are differentiated on reddit and it seems to work well.

As for fighting... I certainly hope not! I know most of the mods on both subs and they are all quite friendly with each other - many hangout together on IRC etc.

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[–] Shmig 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This sounds like a solid plan. I half expected for the mods to have already thought of this and talked about it.

I wonder if there are/will be and legal troubles with using IAMA. I feel like there shouldn't but I wouldn't be surprised.

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[–] oaken 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I've heard that although reddit has technically trademarked IAMA, it's pretty shaky and would never hold up in court. Not sure though IANAL.

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[–] Morro 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Maybe even /v/til and /v/todayilearned could merge?

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[–] jasu 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

Agreed. I think /v/ama should be the default. Clear and simple.

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