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[–] planetmatt 7 points 175 points (+182|-7) ago 

Is this the bit where Edward tells us Voat is some NSA honey trap, we're all on the list, and we can't go on holiday again?

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[–] jptawok 0 points 50 points (+50|-0) ago 

Wow, the first person I've seen on Voat with a negative score. Kudos!

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[–] planetmatt 8 points 49 points (+57|-8) ago 

What do I win? :)

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[–] fireflydealership 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

its impressive in its own shitty way haha

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[–] catsup 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

First thing I thought of when I heard "Kudos": https://youtu.be/SM9s5cOKe8c?t=449

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[–] Shakshuka_ 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

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[–] Bringo 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Funny, but sad. It's like the internet is anon for everyday users like you and me, but to see origin of traffic, macro trends, or basic "metadata" we have to be either monster companies, entities, or nations. The 'net has been compromised, and I'm not really a tinfoil hat type of person.

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[–] omegletrollz 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Not entirely, several open sites monitor web traffic like http://www.alexa.com/topsites

Of course, like everything in life if you have several million to spend there's a lot more you can do...

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[–] Ichigo101 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Not really. The net is an unexplored world. We can go deeper and can work together to be better or die.

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[–] BaconBaconBacon 1 point 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

If I remember, they are no longer allowed to collect bulk data unless the data goes outside the US.

Where are these servers located again?

Oh, he might also tell us that the reddit/voat drama was staged to split the people that care from those those that don't for the purpose of identifying them and more importantly, keeping unauthorized opinions off the "front page of the internet" and out of the public spotlight. Divide and conquer.

I should write conspiracy theories. Or hide.

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[–] BiscuitFever 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Hide. It's the best option.

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[–] CptCmdrAwesome 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

If I remember, they are no longer allowed to collect bulk data unless the data goes outside the US.

FYI, that's never mattered anyway. If they want it, they will get it from the UK or other members of the "Five Eyes".

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[–] racecoon 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

No they do;

The law that allowed them to do bulk collection on data on citizens within the country DID EXPIRE- BUT the NSA waited a bit and went to the FISA (the 'secret' court) to pass a law (it's not published of course) so that they can resume the collection.

I don't have an exact source (I'm a bit too lazy) but if you visit the youtube channel Tek Syndicate, look through their previous videos, it has to be within the last few months this happened, should be in the title of the video. The videos are about technology in general, so they go through a lot of topics on each video- might be a bit hard to find, but you could google it as well.

Also- it makes more sense that the government does collect data on it's own citizens than abroad. There is a reason why there are different agencies, such as the CIA, FBI, and NSA. The CIA looks abroad, the FBI looks within the country, the NSA is really a tool used to collection information for the FBI and CIA. Abroad is only half the battle, citizens within the country is the remaining. Think of it this way- If I was a Captain of a ship out at sea, I would like to know if there were pirates looming about, and I would also like to know if there was a plan for mutiny, so I could either A) lock those up who are leading it, in order prevent and deter other from a mutiny or B) try to improve the situation.

  • For those who do not believe the NSA doesn't have any information on you:

I'm not a tin foil hat kind of person, but the government is never going to stop the bulk collection of data, including on it's own citizens. They are building massive data centers (there's a new one in Utah I believe) so they can store the data. From my general understanding of tech and whatnot, they really only use this to look into people of interest right now, but they are continuing to develop algorithms that will in the future flag people, and when I mean flag, building a profile that may say you a possible person who is mentally unstable, or someone with knowledge that could possible build a large bomb, or someone who has access to certain materials, or maybe someone who is anti-American, or a political-protester; there could be countless types of flags. It's really interesting, honestly everyone should be a bit concerned, or just aware of what's happening. If you have a google account, search for 'google search history result' and you'll land onto a webpage of all the data google has on you (or at least the information they are willing to show to you. It contains your gps information if you use android for the past 5+ years, all search history and more. You can look at precise date and time, and if you had your phone on you, you can see where you were. All this information is the same information the NSA has on you and much much more, including information when your gps was 'turned off'.

Edit: I found the link that shows your GPS and search history: https://history.google.com/history/

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[–] Traditional_Values 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I treat the whole internet as an NSA honey trap, but it really doesn't limit what I say or do. Exercising your rights is a great way to preserve them.

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[–] thefoolofemmaus 2 points 34 points (+36|-2) ago 

His AMA on the other site was pretty epic. I would be interested to hear his opinion on the drama currently unfolding over there.

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[–] G4 0 points 66 points (+66|-0) ago 

I'm pretty sure Snowden doesn't give a shit about the drama on Leddit.

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[–] The_Clown 0 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago 

Probably not, but maybe. One of the biggest differences on Voat is our public modlogs, and that's a controversy on reddit as the CEO said he wants them and a lot of mods said no. Given that the biggest case of moderator abuse in reddit history saw /r/technology secretly deleting any post that referenced "NSA" (among other things) he might care a little. At any rate, at least he probably wouldn't view voat in a negative light, and the demographics here would be disproportionately more likely to care about him. He's one of our best bets for a big-name AMA. Maybe Assange too.

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[–] Nitrous 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Agree. I am so tired of hearing about reddit on this site.when does it end?!? This is my first time chime in on this subject. When i see everyone non stop talking about reddit to me you sound like you just got out of a relationship and have not got over the break up. Stfu about reddit and start making your relationship better with voat or go back to fucking reddit.

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[–] thefoolofemmaus 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

He cares about openness, and he certainly has used that site to spread his message. You may be right, but I'd still like to ask the question. Something something advertisers having too much control over public discourse...something money in politics.

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[–] nullninja ago 

I'm sure Snowden was an avid reddit user and possibly has a voat account.

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[–] savageslav 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I think that answering questions about reddit would be horrible waist of his time!

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[–] thefoolofemmaus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think asking about duck sized horses is a horrid waste of time, but other people seem to find it interesting.

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[–] Brashtacks ago  (edited ago)

I'd guess he has plenty of time right now. If he can ever come home, his time will be much more valuable.

Edit to add: it wouldn't have to ramble on about Reddit, unless he steered his responses that way.

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[–] Maxcactus 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Why?

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[–] wagonfolk ago 

side note, can VES integrate something that changes 'reddit' to 'that other site' or 'snoo'? like that cloud to farts extension?

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[–] DrEggman 2 points 25 points (+27|-2) ago 

I'd love this. Edward gives an AMA here - even if only a small one - and we instantly get another large flock of people from that other site moving here and joining our community. I'm all for.

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[–] 1002421? 0 points 33 points (+33|-0) ago 

Edward Snowden Voat AMA.. moderated by Victoria Taylor. Reddit would cease to exist in a single day.

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[–] mexcellente 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Pretty sure Ed Snowden is computer literate enough to not need Victoria, she was just a marketing shill anyway

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[–] SenorBurrito 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Don't worry. They will come. I know I did.

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[–] Cool_Breeze 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

They will come. I know I did.

http://i.imgur.com/4sPKOmV.gif

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[–] DrEggman 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Oh I'm confident. I just wish to add some insult to reddits injuries.

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[–] his_dick 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

So did I ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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[–] Ripper 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I'm starting to wonder if that would be good? Think being big and sustainable is better than being monstrous and unstable?

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[–] Mrpixel 1 point 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

I would like to get his take on the TPP and if he knows how the ABC agencies will use it to their advantage.

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[–] Mrpixel ago 

I understand that. I would like his take on the other parts that aren't specifically about targeting Journalists and Whistle blowers.

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[–] Kimmy ago 

Me too...especially since Reddit keeps deleting stuff about it.

He'd probably want to talk about it on Reddit though since they have the bigger audience :( Meh.

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[–] WirelessGSpot 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

How would he know? He wasn't some policy maker, and he will say whatever the Russian FSB tells him to say.

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[–] Mrpixel 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

The TPP isn't a new bill but a reoccurring one that has finally been passed. I'm wondering if maybe some of the documents that he took had a game plan in place for then/if the bill was ever made law what they would have ready to immediately implement.

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[–] aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 1 point 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

I'd be curious to see what his thoughts are about this

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[–] Boukert 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Glad to see this here, been thinking about proposing this myself last few days. Would be a huge boost to Voat's credibility!

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[–] Cossack 5 points 3 points (+8|-5) ago  (edited ago)

"American hero"

It's like we're becoming a safe self parody. This whole NSA shit is so circle-jerky around here.

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[–] Cossack 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

No, I'm perfectly happy here on Voat. One of the reasons I ultimately left Reddit was because it was a gigantic circlejerk and I'd prefer not to see the same here. Although I think Edward Snowden did a service to the American people, calling him an American hero is over-doing it. That's just my opinion.

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[–] sozcaps 5 points -2 points (+3|-5) ago 

You gotta admit the title is a bit ironic. If America truly saw Snowden as a hero, wouldn't he be allowed to go home to his country?

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[–] tonycongo 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

It's like we're becoming a safe parody.

What does this even mean? Is this even a sentence? How does calling Snowden an American Hero make voat a parody of anything?

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[–] Harvo 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

We do need a strategy to start getting some legit AMA over here. I am a senior sales rep and will cold call fuckin Obama if you need. Pls let me know if I can ever help.

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