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[–] Runaway-White-Slave 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

What's it like essentially working for an industry that went from making vehicles almost anyone could work on, to making shit only their trained technicians can figure out?

It's really obnoxious, unnecessary, and seems a bit greedy on the part of the auto industry. They're literally helping foster the codependency of the masses, almost as if they too are a part of some global (((Communist))) scheme to clip everyone's wings and leave us no choice but to fall in line. Certain, whether it's vehicle manufacturers, or John Deere tractor company are trying to claim everything they engineer is "intellectual property", and therefore only they should have the right to service it...... Really pisses me off.

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[–] WiLiV [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It's really beneficial to have manufacturer specific training, essentially. Especially with imports, as those share radical designs compared to domestics.

It's all a money making scheme in my mind. If no one but a trained tech can perform the work, no one but the company that employs the techs makes the money.

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[–] WiLiV [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Not exactly. Computer reflashes are uncommon at smaller shops, but I spent a little time at a GM dealer and BCM reflashes were almost an everyday thing.

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[–] drstrangegov 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

not true. especially of gm. you cant even replace a heater dash module without the software to flash it on a newer vehicle.

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[–] midnight_rider 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You're right about the computer, however twin overhead cams with variable valve timing on two banks of a flat six isn't exactly an air cooled 911T. Many cars also need a computer purchase to reset the oil change light.

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[–] Caesarkid1 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Power steering repairs on modern vehicles often involves the reprogramming of the component/computer so that they are in sync/aligned. This is just one issue. Another issue is anti-theft protection. Many vehicles if you simply unhook the battery will "forget" their memory and disassociate from the key. This means the dealer will have to reprogram it for you using a proprietary and/or very expensive tool to do so.

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[–] ihaphleas 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Part of the cause of this is government efficiency regulations. Also, most people want these more efficient vehicles since the price of gas is higher than it used to be. But you're right, cars used to be optimized for a different set of conditions ... one of those conditions being less expert service.

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[–] Cat-hax 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The reason why I wont be buying a new car ever, far to much shit going on, I just want simple.